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Re: Firefox Developer Edition

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Post by gtirloni »

pluc wrote: post #84
gtirloni wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By everyone you mean other vendors? https://www.google.com/chrome/browser/canary.html http://devchannel.modern.ie/ http://www.opera.com/developer

I mean end users. I'd love to develop using one of these, but if 80% of the rest of the world can't see what I've done the way I see it when I do it, there's no real benefit here.

Got it. The "when I do it" part is the tricky one. They will see things the way you see it when Google/Mozilla/MS release the new version. I understand that might be an issue but releases have been moving much faster lately. There is hope!

Re: Firefox Developer Edition

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Post by at-fates-hands »

acdha wrote: post #114
callahad wrote: post #43

Hi! Just a heads up that folks from the dev tools team will be monitoring this thread and are on-hand to answer questions. We'll try not to thread sit too much. :) In brief, the Developer Edition is a new release channel for Firefox, replacing Aurora (our pre-Beta channel). Everything else about the release cadence is the same. There are four major new features here: 1. The Firefox Tools Adapter ("Valence"), which le…

I'd love it if the Responsive Design Mode had multiple viewport support so you could have the same page visible at multiple breakpoints simultaneously

Add my vote to this one.

Also, having more than 6 presets would be better. There's so many devices with different viewport sizes now. Chrome at least has a fairly deep list of devices you can test with their responsive tool. It would be nice to see a more robust list in the Developer Edition.

Re: Firefox Developer Edition

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Post by johns »

mcheely wrote: post #103
callahad wrote: post #43

Hi! Just a heads up that folks from the dev tools team will be monitoring this thread and are on-hand to answer questions. We'll try not to thread sit too much. :) In brief, the Developer Edition is a new release channel for Firefox, replacing Aurora (our pre-Beta channel). Everything else about the release cadence is the same. There are four major new features here: 1. The Firefox Tools Adapter ("Valence"), which le…

A really small thing that would be immensely useful to me would be a quick way to to copy or save as plain text a full HTTP request & response, with a little bit of nice formatting to make it human readable. I often find myself passing this data along to API developers via email or chat to debug issues. I can always just copy and paste directly from the request inspection dialog, but that loses all of the useful form…

If I may offer a shameless plug...if those requests are on public DNS, you can capture and share them with Runscope: https://www.runscope.com/docs/debugging https://www.runscope.com/docs/sharing

Re: Firefox Developer Edition

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Post by explorigin »

callahad wrote: post #43

Hi! Just a heads up that folks from the dev tools team will be monitoring this thread and are on-hand to answer questions. We'll try not to thread sit too much. :) In brief, the Developer Edition is a new release channel for Firefox, replacing Aurora (our pre-Beta channel). Everything else about the release cadence is the same. There are four major new features here: 1. The Firefox Tools Adapter ("Valence"), which le…

The current debugger lists the current execution stack horizontally. This is bad UI because it's hard to follow. It is more convenient for short stack hops but for deep traversal, it is worse than Chrome's vertical stacking in a tree.

Re: Firefox Developer Edition

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Post by dante9999 »

paulojreis wrote: post #61
callahad wrote: post #43

Hi! Just a heads up that folks from the dev tools team will be monitoring this thread and are on-hand to answer questions. We'll try not to thread sit too much. :) In brief, the Developer Edition is a new release channel for Firefox, replacing Aurora (our pre-Beta channel). Everything else about the release cadence is the same. There are four major new features here: 1. The Firefox Tools Adapter ("Valence"), which le…

From the top of my mind: 1. HTTP Request builder (think cURL with a nicer GUI and the ability to save presets); 2. Web Proxy, able to "stop-and-modify" requests (think Fiddler or Charles); 3. Network conditions simulator for throttling, packet dropping and limited bandwidth, with profiles (e.g. GPRS); 4. Local Mock REST API, with a few predefined endpoints (e.g. /users/) + the ability to create new ones (with configu…

I see that concerning point one and two there is option 'edit and resend' visible if you hover over request in network tab, and there is also option 'enable persistent logs', that shows what happens between refreshes. Don't know how it works, just playing around for 10 minutes.

Overall I'm impressed with new network panel, much better than before.

Re: Firefox Developer Edition

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Post by bad_user »

Wow, so Firefox's Preferences panel is being redesigned, or is this a "Developer Edition" thing? I like it - hopefully they'll also add searching capabilities. Yes, like in Chrome, that was a good design choice.

On the theme, I personally don't like dark themes for my browser. But I like that this theme is space efficient, so I hope to see an equivalent for the stable Firefox, as I for one would use it, but please make it light instead of dark :)

I do hope to see Electrolysis get some love. It's available in Nightly, but not in this developer preview. From what I understand, the next version (36) is the first version in which Electrolysis starts being moved between channels.

Anyway, great job.

Re: Firefox Developer Edition

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Post by acqq »

callahad wrote: post #90
acqq wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, so this "Edition" will deliver the things that aren't even Beta? Is that only for development-only tools or also for features which will appear in "normal" Firefox? I think I'd prefer to develop for the current state of my user base and not for some "maybe it will be so" target. Can you please clarify what the "new rules" are?

The release process might help explain it: https://wiki.mozilla.org/RapidRelease or, if you're familiar with Chrome's stable / beta / dev / canary channels, it's largely the same model. As far as fundamental web platform features are concerned, the Developer Edition is a normal pre-Beta channel. It's primarily that more willing to promote new tooling up from Nightly into the DevEdition or to set different default pre…

I see, the "new rules" are easiest to summarize as one more "let's do it like Chrome" step.
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