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Tox: A simple, distributed, free, secure Skype replacement. Now alpha with A/V

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Re: Tox: A simple, distributed, free, secure Skype replacement. Now alpha with A/V

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Post by soyiuz »

sitkack wrote: post #135
veeti wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Knowing the typical Arch/Gentoo tiling WM 8px console font anime wallpaper mindset on /g/, "bloat".

I just did an analysis of the people involved in this project. Tox even more than cryptocat, is a very dangerous product to use. Even Tor has flaws while having many very capable cryptographers behind it. Tox appears to be swiss cheese both in code and protocol. Rather than ricers with -Ofast kernels and overclocked CPUs it would be nice if a mature team focused on security and correctness first.

What was your "analysis" and how is it "very dangerous"?

Re: Tox: A simple, distributed, free, secure Skype replacement. Now alpha with A/V

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Post by dm2 »

bramd wrote: post #98

I don't post often on HN, but today couldn't resist. Just tested Utox on Windows as well as Toxy, also on Windows. Both programs are totally inaccessible for people using a screenreader and I'm quite sure as well for people using things like speech recognition. Utox seems to be C++ and a GUI framework I didn't look into. Toxy is .NET+WPF... two different stacks, but two inaccessible programs. I'm quite sure the devel…

Are there any good tools/guides for evaluating a websites / apps accessibility?

I'm a developer but do not ever focus on accessibility because nobody has brought it to my attention, not a single bug report or conversation from management.

Re: Tox: A simple, distributed, free, secure Skype replacement. Now alpha with A/V

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Post by JoeAltmaier »

dethstar wrote: post #113
JoeAltmaier wrote: post #90

Warning: shameless plug. Sococo has a free replacement for Skype, including doc sharing, chat etc. Been around for years now.

Sococo doesn't seem to be open source

Free though. And lots of features.

Re: Tox: A simple, distributed, free, secure Skype replacement. Now alpha with A/V

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Post by scott_karana »

lawl wrote: post #123
oldmanjay wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a reliable sign of a good developer at all, although you'd be hard-pressed to realize that if you're hip deep in the culture.

My experience from interviewing other devs begs to differ. But why have a discussion when you can just ad homiem people? In my experience this shows that people actually care about the tech they work with. Which is a good sign.

Caring about tooling doesn't mean you can necessarily use them well, especially when rhetoric becomes codified.

Re: Tox: A simple, distributed, free, secure Skype replacement. Now alpha with A/V

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Post by sitkack »

soyiuz wrote: post #141
sitkack wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just did an analysis of the people involved in this project. Tox even more than cryptocat, is a very dangerous product to use. Even Tor has flaws while having many very capable cryptographers behind it. Tox appears to be swiss cheese both in code and protocol. Rather than ricers with -Ofast kernels and overclocked CPUs it would be nice if a mature team focused on security and correctness first.

What was your "analysis" and how is it "very dangerous"?

This is a start, http://www.tox-chat.com/

Like cryptocat, tox claims things that are not proven to be true by developers that aren't qualified to be writing or designing the protocols for a secure encrypted chat.

Having the intent to do something isn't the same thing as actually being able to do it. People will use tox and get p3wnd with very dire consequences.

Re: Tox: A simple, distributed, free, secure Skype replacement. Now alpha with A/V

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Post by TallboyOne »

Ridley wrote: post #69
TallboyOne wrote: post #39

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The first thing I thought of was toxic.

Toxic is the name of the CLI client. https://github.com/tox/toxic I take the opposite perspective though. In nature toxins and poisons are used as protection against predators.

That's for you personally. There's a reason companies spend millions of dollars on branding (for the masses) though... any marketing 101 person can tell you you don't want your company associated with negative images like toxins :p
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