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“Learning to Read” excerpt from The Autobiography of Malcolm X

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Is this also a good way to master programming? i.e Take a reference book/open source project and type out everything till you internalize it?

Copying is an excellent way to memorize, but memorization is different from learning. I suspect that learning and mastering a programming language is going to require doing more than memorizing.

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Novacole is not saying violence and hatred toward white people is okay. The poster is distinguishing between prejudice and the term racism. Racism has a power component. Powerless people cannot make another race face racism as a group because they do not have the societal power to effect laws, police, institutional behavior.

>The poster is distinguishing between discrimination and the term racism. You and the poster seem to misunderstand what racism is. Racism is a type of discrimination. The term discrimination covers a wide range of things, it doesn't only deal with race. You are free to disagree with the actual definition of racism, but you don't get to reinvent the english language. Whether or not something is racist has absolutely n…

The dictionary definition of the term "racist" refers to a systemic discrimination based on race. The problem is that the colloquial use of the term simply means that one is prejudiced against races that aren't their own. To clarify the issue one is trying to discuss, it's better to use the term "institutional racism" in order to clarify the point you're trying to make.

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Why not? It worked for King, it worked for Ghandi. Do you really think there could have been something like the civil rights laws -- born primarily of white people -- if the primary black person had been X and not King?

>>it worked for Ghandi. Yet it was Ghandi himself who, when asked if his peaceful tactics would have worked against Hitler, said, "probably not." I'm not suggesting that white people are literally Hitler , but simply that there's a time and place for everything, including peace and violence. And I say that as someone who has never called for violence on anything ever.

That is true. However the guy I responded to said "you don't" as in a general rule.

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Is it still worth reading for somebody who despise the man? Both what he was (a robber) and what he became?

It seems to me, in many cases, hate for Malcolm X is usually centered around his view of militancy as a viable option and his connection to the Nation of Islam. America was established through violent militancy, so I don't understand the first point. Many great conflicts have proven that as a viable solution. The second point makes many people uncomfortable because of the NOI's vocal opinions of the white race as a w…

It's worth reading the book just to understand in some small way the experience of Malcolm X and people like him. His father was murdered (probably by the police & because he was becoming politically active) and then his mother was cheated out of the life insurance because his death was falsely ruled as a suicide.

In turn the struggle of bringing up her family ruined his mother's health and probably her sanity.

So one can understand his being bitter and twisted. What is impressive is that he overcame this. I would put this book on any must-read list.

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For those who feel uncomfortable with Malcolm's former creed that white people are devils and the black race is superior to all others, please do take note of the fact that he did convert to mainstream Islam near the end of his life thus disavowing any such racism or black supremacy. As Malcolm so eloquently stated: "America needs to understand Islam, because this is the one religion that erases from its society the…

> You see, orthodox Islam, from the very beginning, espoused equality for all races. In fact, race in Islam is an inconsequential matter. Oh, is this why Muslim Arabs engaged in the enslaving, transportation, and sale of 10–18 million black Africans over the course of 13 centuries (650 AD – 1900 AD)?

I guess if there had been a market for white slaves they would have sold those too...

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It seems to me, in many cases, hate for Malcolm X is usually centered around his view of militancy as a viable option and his connection to the Nation of Islam. America was established through violent militancy, so I don't understand the first point. Many great conflicts have proven that as a viable solution. The second point makes many people uncomfortable because of the NOI's vocal opinions of the white race as a w…

> While the "white devil" philosophy can be supported with case studies of deplorable acts against blacks To be clear, the NOI teaches that "white" people are literal devils - they were created by a scientist named Yakub ~6,000 years ago for the express purpose of fighting the "original" (i.e. "black") people. I can sympathize with mistrust, and even hostility, towards a culture which historically and presently suppo…

To be clear, the old testament curses an entire race of people because Noah got drunk and his son saw him naked, so one of his grandsons and all the descendants thereof were to be cursed (and then later on exterminated as part of stealing their land).

I'm not sure why you gave the crazy details of the NOI story and the weirdly detached and vague paraphrase version of the OT one.

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> You see, orthodox Islam, from the very beginning, espoused equality for all races. In fact, race in Islam is an inconsequential matter. Oh, is this why Muslim Arabs engaged in the enslaving, transportation, and sale of 10–18 million black Africans over the course of 13 centuries (650 AD – 1900 AD)?

I guess if there had been a market for white slaves they would have sold those too...

They did.

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what a shame that his intellect ended up wasted on reactionary racism. understandable in a sense, given time and place, but still... a waste.

You are using your intellect to convince the world that white men are oppressed. That's a waste. Malcolm X was addressing decades of white-on-black domestic terrorism across the country. Black people were being regularly lynched, firebombed, raped and imprisoned for little more than being black and asserting basic human rights. Segregationists controlled Congress when Malcolm was at his most influential - there was v…

Malcolm X was addressing decades of white-on-black domestic terrorism across the country.

s/decades/centuries

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> At one-hour intervals the night guards paced past every room. Each time I heard the approaching footsteps, I jumped into bed and feigned sleep. And as soon as the guard passed, I got back out of bed onto the floor area of that light-glow, where I would read for another fifty-eight minutes—until the guard approached again. That went on until three or four every morning. I did something similar as a child, with my gu…

One of my recent proud moments as a parent was catching my 7yo up at midnight reading her favourite book of Greek myths.* I can verify it's not actually possible to tell a child off for doing precisely what you both did as kids and deeply approve of. I actually convinced her she did need to sleep by pointing out how tired she'd been that morning, and she did have school in the morning ...

* http://www.amazon.com/Atticus-Storytellers-100-Greek-Myths/d... - simplified and bowdlerised versions for kids, but a really good start on cultural literacy.

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Good parents will learn not to listen too closely to whether their children are asleep or reading - great parents will make sure the flashlight batteries are periodically replaced.

Not necessarily. Getting enough sleep is incredibly important.

Managed to convince my 7yo midnight reader that she needed to get to sleep so she wouldn't be tired for school in the morning. Sweet reason! It works on kids on rare occasions!
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