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Microsoft to release Android-powered Nokia X2 handset

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Re: Microsoft to release Android-powered Nokia X2 handset

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It doesn't say that to me. It says: "Nokia baggage". That is all. Either way, I'm not writing another damn mobile app or picking up another damn smartphone again. It's all totally crazy bananas now. I'd rather write win32 again with a broken-ass compiler.

Make your fantasy a (simulated) reality. With current trends you'd probably be best served by creating "win32js".

Yes please!!! I want to play old Windows Games in my browser in my Windows PC... Oh wait...

Re: Microsoft to release Android-powered Nokia X2 handset

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Hmm, just wondering. Why do you think windows phone is better than android? Android is easy to hack about with, custom roms, the source is open and out there (most of it anyway)and generally has great usibility.

Usability. I strongly disagree that Android has much of that, and I suspect that a great many Android users simply don't know any better. Windows Phone really is that much better. Rant: My first smartphone was a Lumia, and then when it broke i went to a Sony Xperia (with a rather clean Android 4.3 on it). I never even realized how well-designed WP was until I went to Android. Examples: - Operation. Nearly all of WP i…

Re: Operation, screen and thumb;

This is one of the things I hate about the >4" screens, the interfaces were all designed with things being reachable, but now, I with large hands even, can't do it.

Re: Microsoft to release Android-powered Nokia X2 handset

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What this says to me as a developer in the Microsoft ecosystem (admittedly, enterprise side and not mobile): "Four years ago we had you writing all your apps using Silverlight. Two years ago we chucked that out the window (ahahahaha) and told you to switch over to WinRT. Now we're going Android. We hope you've got the message by now. But in case you haven't, let us restate it in plain English: Dear developers, GO THE…

Silverlight and RT are both viable development platforms for building Windows (Phone or otherwise). Watch some of the sessions from Build[1], both platforms got a lot of love actually.

http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Build/2014

Re: Microsoft to release Android-powered Nokia X2 handset

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This has even fewer apps than WP8, let alone the "real" Android. I don't see why anyone would want this.

I don't know why you're being modded down, you're exactly right. Just like the Ovi Store on Symbian, the Nokia Store offers a fraction of the apps that Play, Microsoft App Store, and even the Amazon App Store offer. As for why people would want this, it's actually good hardware for the price, and if it's ever rooted and flashed with a full Android ROM with Play support, it would end up being a nice phone overall.

Everything in this post that even hints at being anti-Microsoft has been heavily downvoted in this post.

It looks like some MS employees have been asked to do some dirty social media manipulation.

Re: Microsoft to release Android-powered Nokia X2 handset

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You've already told me many many times that you don't like Microsoft. And if I didn't know, I could just look at your user profile where it is stated explicitly. There's about zero content in your response. Just scattershot contradiction using the pick apart technique in hopes of trolling an inflamed response.

If you disagree with my argument, you should discuss it. If you disagree with my taste, you can do so politely. > Just scattershot contradiction It's appropriate when many of the statements are simply false. - All competitors have Skype. This is not an advantage. - The interface being "more thoughtfully designed" is debatable. I am hardly alone in preferring vanilla Android over Metro and it remains to be seen how we…

Visual Studio certainly is an option for Android, iOS and OSX development, when combined with Xamarin. I even think this is the best crossplatform mobile toolset that currently exitst and others think so too [1].

If you think the Android SDK is very good, have you ever started the emulator and tried to debug an app? It's horrendously slow and buggy, if it works at all. iOS and especially WP are so much faster and easier to develop for.

[1] http://www.drdobbs.com/tools/xamarin-3-enterprise-edition-re...

Re: Microsoft to release Android-powered Nokia X2 handset

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Except it doesn't have the Google Play store or Play Services, so it's not going to appeal to the usual Android user. As someone who uses Windows Phone, I keep scratching my head wondering why Microsoft even bothers.

It's a Nokia phone, not a Microsoft phone. It takes an average of 18 months to bring a phone to market. The Nokia acquisition was completed just two months ago, and the teams must be fairly independent right now. While the Nokia acquisition was being completed, Nokia was legally required to act as if the acquisition would fail. China approved the Nokia acquisition only on April 8, what would have happened if they did…

I've received an invitation from Opera for publishing/porting app on Nokia, which stated that Microsoft team will be contacting me should I choose to proceed... So it does sound like they seems to be taking some part handling Nokia store.

Re: Microsoft to release Android-powered Nokia X2 handset

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It seems like Microsoft and Amazon are not getting the real benefit of this platform by excluding the Google Play store from their versions of the Android experience. I guess it's understandable why they're doing that, it's just bad for users. Are there some kind of licensing terms that prevent them from shipping forks like this with the Google Play store as one of two app stores available? Would they have to make th…

Yes, Google requires making their search and services default and allows only superficial Android modifications for anyone who wants to distribute Google Play Services. Reference: http://www.androidbeat.com/2014/02/android-open-google-certi...

Thanks for the link. I thought I vaguely remembered hearing something about this before.

Just as with Microsoft and Amazon, I get why Google does this, but I think it hurts users and pretty much guarantees there's going to be limited Android experiences for lots of users out there. "Take all our apps, on our terms, or take none," pretty much guarantees the Microsofts and Amazons of the world are going to take none.

Andorid may be an open platform but it's primary app distribution channel clearly is not. It's an interesting contortion...they don't qualitatively screen apps, but they effectively screen what flavor of the platform can have the chief app repository itself.

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Why doesn't the European Union and the UK just adopt the US dollar?

Effectively this is what the Bretton Woods system was. It has the limitation that states then have to maintain a neutral balance of payments (imports+investment in = exports+investment out). This turns out to be much harder than it sounds, especially in a world of expensive post 1971 oil and even more so given post 2005 oil prices.

Well, I didn't expect _that_ to get downvoted.

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Usability. I strongly disagree that Android has much of that, and I suspect that a great many Android users simply don't know any better. Windows Phone really is that much better. Rant: My first smartphone was a Lumia, and then when it broke i went to a Sony Xperia (with a rather clean Android 4.3 on it). I never even realized how well-designed WP was until I went to Android. Examples: - Operation. Nearly all of WP i…

Re: Operation, screen and thumb; This is one of the things I hate about the >4" screens, the interfaces were all designed with things being reachable, but now, I with large hands even, can't do it.

Well, get Windows Phone and you wont have that problem. Even the ridiculously huge Lumia 1520 is quite usable with one hand.

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If you disagree with my argument, you should discuss it. If you disagree with my taste, you can do so politely. > Just scattershot contradiction It's appropriate when many of the statements are simply false. - All competitors have Skype. This is not an advantage. - The interface being "more thoughtfully designed" is debatable. I am hardly alone in preferring vanilla Android over Metro and it remains to be seen how we…

Visual Studio certainly is an option for Android, iOS and OSX development, when combined with Xamarin. I even think this is the best crossplatform mobile toolset that currently exitst and others think so too [1]. If you think the Android SDK is very good, have you ever started the emulator and tried to debug an app? It's horrendously slow and buggy, if it works at all. iOS and especially WP are so much faster and eas…

> If you think the Android SDK is very good, have you ever started the emulator and tried to debug an app? It's horrendously slow and buggy, if it works at all.

It really depends. The iOS emulator runs x86 code. The Android emulators are full hardware emulators, but, if you choose to run your software on x86-based virtual hardware, it'll use your CPUs virtualization facilities to run faster than most handsets (which may not be the best idea considering actual hardware is much slower)

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