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Oh okay, I go to a school just south in an miniscule town by your standards then. Haha.
How far just south? Rolla, or Jefferson City? My wife is from Rolla, and I know several people that went there. I don't know anybody that went to Lincoln though.
A new form accreditation is really what's holding back a huge change in higher education. MOOCs right now, at most, can replace only traditional professional development classes. They're still not a drop-in replacement for college degrees. That's because of accreditation. Bachelors degrees are valuable, in large part, because they're a common currency: employers know when they see a potential hire has bachelor's degr…
This might be heresy here on HN, but I think that there is more than accreditation paperwork at play here. I think it remains to be proven whether a MOOC actually does deliver an education that is on par with what you would get from attending a 4-year CS degree program at a college or university. MOOCs are new and exciting, but they're also new and unproven. Accredited bachelor degrees are valued because they have a…
The key is to find a method of credentialing general enough that it can apply to both traditional, college-educated job applicants and non-traditional ones alike.
Whether MOOCs will be enough for those non-traditional applicants to be successful in this modern credential system is a separate issue, and, as you point out, far from certain.
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Aren't non-EU students supposed to pay full price for their university education?
Sure, in the UK. I don't even count them in Europe anymore. ;-) Try Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Norway, Sweden, France,…
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>My response is that graduating from college is the first thing you can do where it's reasonably hard, takes a multi-year effort, and is completely optional That's not entirely true - taking a job also falls into that category. Not saying that college isn't a valid choice, but 3 years of work at the same point can be an equally valid choice.
Not nearly as valid. Generally, people have to have a job in order to survive.
It's also entirely possible to choose to go to college for several years rather than work - the decision to go to work at that point can be as as much an active (and optional) choice as going to college. No one is forcing you to do one or the other, or neither, at that point.
And even if you do have to work, you can choose to do the bare minimum to get by, or you can make the personal choice to push yourself.