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Wild hypothesis. Amazon started as a book distributor. Now it is fighting to become a publisher. iTunes + iPod started as a music distributor. What if it now has ambitions as a label? How would one build that out of Cupertino? One would start with a fringe, fragmented genre, to serve as a beachhead. Fragmented by not flat - there should be a node near the top of a hierarchy which can be acquired and leveraged. $1.3 b…
You'd have to be pretty insane to spend $3b to get into the content industry in 2014. First, it's an industry that's been plummeting for a decade, secondly, the entire recording industry is worth about that much, and thirdly, the entire concept of making money from copyrighted works of art is under threat. This theory doesn't hold water, sorry.
Apple Confirms Its $3 Billion Deal for Beats Electronics
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Re: Apple Confirms Its $3 Billion Deal for Beats Electronics
#142Apple redefined the mp3 player market, the ultraportable laptop market, the smartphone market, the tablet market, and now they're buying a company that reinvented the higher-end headphone market. Is it smart of a brand that has traditionally created their own iconic images to buy another cultural icon for $3 billion? I don't think so. Maybe this gets used a lot, but would Steve Jobs have done this? Or would he have c…
> would Steve Jobs have done this? Or would he have created his own headphones and music streaming service? I don't know, would he have? You asked the question in such a way as to imply the answer that no, he wouldn't, but you can't actually know that for sure. Also, we shouldn't be holding Apple to the standard of 'Steve Jobs was perfect so if he wouldn't have done this then it's bad'; Jobs made his share of mistake…
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#143The most interesting reveal from Tim Cook's quote is that he only mentions the music service and the talent, not the headphones. That's super interesting. It basically means Apple looked at this like a typical Apple aquihire / component technology purchase (of the service), that just happened to have a multi-billion dollar profitable accessories business attached to it. That makes it a very unique kind of deal.
It seems a bit absurd to pay $3 Billion for an acquihire/component deal, but Apple has $145 Billion in the bank and just bought the most popular non-Apple name in music.
[1] http://seekingalpha.com/article/1919501-zynga-cash-still-pil...
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When the rumour was $3.2bn he wasn't going to become a billionaire despite his video stating his was - so now the price has dropped he certainly isn't one. Also - what does Beats have to do with his career in hip hop? Hip hop didn't make him almost $1bn, an electronics company he co-founded did. It just irks me every time I see 'hip hops first billionaire'. It has absolutely nothing to do with hip hop.
ehhh i understand where you are coming from, i mean honestly there are multiple existing Hip Hop Billionaires. They are the owners of the record labels, radio stations, etc. Dre is really 'just' the first hip hop artist to make a billion. And from what is currently known, he wont really be a billionaire after the deal. really its just a case of hip hop bragadocio
Not according to Forbes[0] there aren't.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wild hypothesis. Amazon started as a book distributor. Now it is fighting to become a publisher. iTunes + iPod started as a music distributor. What if it now has ambitions as a label? How would one build that out of Cupertino? One would start with a fringe, fragmented genre, to serve as a beachhead. Fragmented by not flat - there should be a node near the top of a hierarchy which can be acquired and leveraged. $1.3 b…
Didn't they sign an agreement with Apple Records that they would not start a record label?
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>I'm willing to bet anything this is going to be seen as where Apple's golden age began to wane. I would argue that they've already been left behind on the music front. iPods are dead, no one wants to buy tracks on iTunes for $1.29, iTunes Radio was too little, too late. A lot of Apple fans are proudly using Spotify or other services on their iPhones. Heck, even the musicians associated with Apple are getting uncool.…
As of about a year ago, Apple was selling about 21 million songs a day. That's a lot of no ones. http://www.billboard.com/biz/articles/news/1538108/itunes-cr... That said, Apple hasn't had much impact on other types of music delivery--although it's probably worth noting that the business models associated with those other types of music delivery are a lot less clear than selling individual songs is.
Re: Apple Confirms Its $3 Billion Deal for Beats Electronics
#147Apple redefined the mp3 player market, the ultraportable laptop market, the smartphone market, the tablet market, and now they're buying a company that reinvented the higher-end headphone market. Is it smart of a brand that has traditionally created their own iconic images to buy another cultural icon for $3 billion? I don't think so. Maybe this gets used a lot, but would Steve Jobs have done this? Or would he have c…
1) The "premium mobile audio" market is going to be the next huge market where Apple and Samsung face-off. It's no coincidence that Samsung announced their new line of premium headphones just a week before the Apple-Beats rumors began: http://www.samsung.com/uk/news/local/samsung-launches-level-...
2)Despite the tech communities denial, Apple and Beats are very much in sync. Beats is first and foremost a fashionable hardware company for the mass markets, which APPLE IS TOO. People in the tech community, and Hacker News more specifically, are having a hard time grasping this deal because they still see Apple's roots as a niche tech company of superior quality, whereas they've long moved to a mass market company. For a long time Apple was seen in a similar light as Beats; they charged a premium for commoditized product (personal computers with operating systems) and were heavily driven by marketing. Wether Hacker News wants to accept it or not, they're both predominantly mass market fashionable hardware companies that charge a premium for their ostensibly superior products. Beats has created a justifiably large brand, whether techies want to accept that fact or not. As the dominant hardware company, Apple is just acquiring a fast up and coming trendy hardware and accessories company, just as happens in every other industry. This deal makes sense.
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Lala became iTunes Radio AFAIK.
Lala was way more than iTunes radio. It had low priced cloud music purchases (e.g. $0.29 a song), unlimited cloud streaming for MP3's you already owned, free album listens for 1-2 plays, an integrated streaming player for third party sites, and more. It was way ahead of its time and competitors, but it was killed by Apple and used for almost nothing.
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For those of us not familiar with Beats, what is so special about the music service compared to (for argument sake) Spotify?
Curation and discovery-- they have celebrity and music curator created playlists. They also have an interesting Pandora-like radio where you can essentially select a mood and it'll build a playlist for you.