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Stop Leaning In. Put Down Your IPhone. And HELP ME.

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Re: Stop Leaning In. Put Down Your IPhone. And HELP ME.

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Post by bsaul »

I was so certain this was absolutely impossible in the US. This is quite common in France, where a girl was raped in the train wagon and nobody did a ything. We have a law that makes it illegal NOT to help the other person if there's a danger. Yet noone moves.

I tried an experiment once quite recently on a train trip, to try and ask some young hysterical girl to calm herself down ( she was basically insulting everybody). What happend was this : seing that someone did something made the other passengers decided to act and speak their mind as well. The problem is that some guy decided to go physical on her and hit her on the face. I had to ask for help stopping him this time.

My conclusion was that :

1/ it only takes one person to make all the other personn move as well.

2/ you have to be really carefull because depending on the level of anger of the crowd, things can get extremely violent.

Re: Stop Leaning In. Put Down Your IPhone. And HELP ME.

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Post by alandarev »

hobbes wrote: post #4

Give her the phone! GIVE HER THE PHONE!! edit: OK, I'm being downvoted. That's fine. But, why put your irreplaceable life in mortal danger for the sake of keeping hold of replaceable consumer electronics? That's the disconnect I'm finding hard to process.

It was not a choice between give phone and life. I view her story as she initially had a choice between give phone and scare the mugger off by the fact it is a middle of a day in large city.

Yes, the second option did not work as planned, and it is the main point of the article.

Re: Stop Leaning In. Put Down Your IPhone. And HELP ME.

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Post by joshstrange »

rrss1122 wrote: post #112
joshstrange wrote: post #100

I expect to gather quite a few downvotes for this viewpoint but here it goes. There is no way I would have intervened. I am a male and I can't see my involvement in the situation working out for me at all. Now you might say I'm wrong for putting my self-preservation above that on Kristen's but this isn't just about preventing physical harm to myself. In fact if I knew that I would only be cut (non-fatal) then I would…

You're assuming too much when you assume that a bystander will attack you. So many people saw the random attacker assault Kristen, no one did a thing about it. You will be the 1 in 100 that would do something about it, chances are there will be no one else.

I know this is 2 days old and I don't want to beat a dead horse but check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3PgH86OyEM

I know it is Man -> Women and Women -> Man but I think it neatly illustrates my point. And I think we can assume:

* 2 women fighting -> Public doesn't care

* women fighting man -> Public doesn't care

* man fighting women -> Public cares and will get involved

Re: Stop Leaning In. Put Down Your IPhone. And HELP ME.

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Post by treyfitty »

lectrick wrote: post #136
treyfitty wrote: post #97

Is it just me or does she seem to have a sense of entitlement? All throughout the article, she seems to tell herself, one way or another, "clearly this can't happen to me. I'm important. Too important."

Do people with a normal amount of self-esteem look "entitled" to those who don't possess that?

... That's the essence of the word "entitled." Their "normal" amount of self-esteem isn't normal at all.
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