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Re: Firefox 29

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Post by toddmorey »

dilap wrote: post #63

I love Firefox -- for what it's done, what it represents, and what it helps guard against. I have fond memories of those early versions of Firefox (nee Firebird) that busted open the IE monopoly, and where hands-down the best browser going at the time. But it's never felt very good on the Mac to me, and it still doesn't. Here's a few early thoughts on this release, from the perspective of a happy Safari user, w/ a pr…

I actually think this is their best effort yet. Firefox on Mac has always felt bloated and foreign to me. But this release pretty much eliminates all of that. While it's not perfect, it's the very first time I've enjoyed using Firefox more than Chrome or Safari. This is an amazing release.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by pessimizer »

andreis1 wrote: post #104
dilap wrote: post #63

I love Firefox -- for what it's done, what it represents, and what it helps guard against. I have fond memories of those early versions of Firefox (nee Firebird) that busted open the IE monopoly, and where hands-down the best browser going at the time. But it's never felt very good on the Mac to me, and it still doesn't. Here's a few early thoughts on this release, from the perspective of a happy Safari user, w/ a pr…

Wrt the 'omnibox vs address-and-search' conundrum: why not just let the user decide in Settings, defaulting on omnibox?

Letting the user decide is so old fashioned.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by rexreed »

I love Firefox, but gosh - when I have many tabs and windows open it's a major memory hog. Maybe all browsers are like that, but it feel particularly worse on Firefox, despite all their efforts to fix memory leak issues.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by pjmlp »

rlx0x wrote: post #125
pjmlp wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- The whole resources view - JavaScript profiling (heap, cpu, events) - DOM events monitoring and breakpoints. - JavaScript code completion

besides the ever-growing list of powerful features (async stack traces?!), I would add usability, I regret clicking "Inspect element (Q)" every time, also the only reason I have a chromium running I prefer firefox otherwise ;) It always amuses me when people think the Firefox Developer Tools are equal to the Chrome DevTools. They really can't be using either of them very much.

Even though as my HN history will show, I prefer native over web, I do work a lot in web projects.

ChromeDev tools remind me of working in Smalltalk. Still not quite there yet, but real close.

Although I also find quite good that FF tooling is improving, as web development requires testing across all major browsers anyway.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by davexunit »

chris_wot wrote: post #129
davexunit wrote: post #61

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I don't use Chrome, but from what I recall it's not that simple. Better to use Chromium instead of Chrome.

I believe it is that simple. If you can find them sending your keystrokes through any other means, then please download Fiddler and write a blog article with the results of your testing :-)

Fiddler is proprietary software. Just like I won't use Chrome, I won't use Fiddler either.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by renox »

espadrine wrote: post #112
davidcollantes wrote: post #36

I have not downloaded it, so forgive me if it is there and I don't see it. Still no omnibar? Why a separated dedicated search field?

"Omnibar" is how Chrome calls it. "Awesome bar" is the name Firefox had given its own, even before then. The main difference is that the Omnibar logs all your keystrokes to Google's servers. The Awesome bar searches through the data it already has locally (bookmarks, history, open tabs), and it makes a Google search if the data you entered isn't a URL. Not logging your keystrokes is a privacy feature. On the other ha…

Note that you can't remove reliably the suggestions from the Omnibar bar, used an "embarrassing" website in non-anonymous mode? Too bad for you, because your wife can see the suggestion..

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by CmdrKrool »

exodust wrote: post #13

What's this about the status bar / add-on bar gone? The main reason why I use Status-4-Evar is because when I hover over a link I don't want that link to pop-over the page content, which is what Chrome did first, then Firefox copied like sheep. It's distracting, like a tiny little pop-over in the corner of your eye. I like having URLs show in a status bar separate to the main web window. It's out of the way, and I ju…

The Customize mode seems fairly flexible, for shuffling things between the three fixed-position bars, ie. the menu, navigation and bookmarks bars (probably the tab bar as well though I don't use tabs myself).

I wonder why you can't just add new blank bars, at either the top or bottom, to fill up to your heart's content with that same Customize mode. That would undo most of the need for things like Status-4-Evar.

This hasn't changed in version 29, by the way. 'Customize' in version 28 also let you juggle controls around any of the menu, navigation, bookmarks or add-on bars pretty generically. In fact, for all the fanfare about how revolutionary a change this new UI is, the only real functional difference in it I can see between 28 and 29 is the removal of the add-on bar, ie. the only one of the bars whose fixed position happened to be at the bottom, rather than the top.

(Of course I don't really believe that this release is specifically intended to troll people who like having some controls at the bottom of their screen, but I must admit that if you did want to do that, then this would be a good way to do it. I'm sticking with 28 until Status-4-Evar catches up. Also thanks for the suggestion of the "Addon Bar" extension elsewhere in the thread, seen and noted.)

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by danford »

epochwolf wrote: post #134
danford wrote: post #116

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But that's not full screen though. That's maximize, you are incorrect. http://i.imgur.com/lO0g7oS.gif

Interesting. I've never seen this before and the only references I've been able to find on it in a quick search was a compiz setting in 12.04. Is this built in to the stock ubuntu releases? If so, what version?

This is Ubuntu Gnome. I'm currently Using Ubuntu 14.04 with Gnome 3.10, but afaik it works on Ubuntu 13.x and GNOME 3.x.

Not sure about the Unity interface as I have limited experience with it.

Re: Firefox 29

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Post by Springtime »

pablobm wrote: post #111
dilap wrote: post #63

I love Firefox -- for what it's done, what it represents, and what it helps guard against. I have fond memories of those early versions of Firefox (nee Firebird) that busted open the IE monopoly, and where hands-down the best browser going at the time. But it's never felt very good on the Mac to me, and it still doesn't. Here's a few early thoughts on this release, from the perspective of a happy Safari user, w/ a pr…

> Separate address and search bars is old-fashioned. > As a user, I don't want to have to make this > distinction, and it's hard to imagine most > users-on-street wouldn't find this confusing Although a UI problem, this is actually a privacy feature. As you type into the search bar, autocomplete queries are sent to the search provider. This happens even if your intention was not to search, but just to enter URL manua…

Just make your own custom search keywords (right-click site's search box>Add a keyword for this search). Uses no autocomplete, and is much more time-saving than a separate search box.

I have around 30 set up, from Wikipedia (w) to Google Image Search (gis), etc.

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