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Re: Microsoft launches Office for iPad

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Post by throwawaymsft »

batoure wrote: post #127
outside1234 wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No it's not. Its encouraging - Microsoft is putting their muscle where the market share is, not based on some religious belief.

Nice... But lets look at the facts. 180 million ipads (of any generation, not all will be able to run this new version of office) currently in circulation. 110 million windows 8 PC's active as of sept 2013.... so yes I agree that microsoft should put their money where their market share is... THEIR market share not apple's, with the decline of xp that number of winodws 8 users is expected to sky rocket... so ya it wo…

But what is a Windows 8 PC?

Just because a PC is sold with Win8 (because prior versions aren't available) doesn't mean people are using it as such. They had to bring back "boot to desktop" as a configuration option, and 60% of win8 machines launch metro less than once a day (https://www.soluto.com/reports).

Re: Microsoft launches Office for iPad

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Post by mark_l_watson »

I think that it is cool for Microsoft to release Office 360 for OS X and iPad.

I do a lot of writing (I am pretty much addicted to writing books). I use my iPad for lots of casual writing using a good text editor and markdown files in Dropbox (target is leanpub.com). For some writing I like having Pages on both iOS and OS X with iCloud storage.

If Office 360 ends up being a compelling product for iPad and my MacBook Air, then the $99/year is a no-brainer decision.

Re: Microsoft launches Office for iPad

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Post by mattkevan »

It's great to see Office on iPad - hopefully it'll encourage Google to improve their terrible Drive app.

Our company moved entirely to Google Docs about 5 years ago. Being sent a Word file is like being handed a CD ROM - a brief moment for a 'Oh, one of those' mental gear change and a few minutes rummaging in the dead tech box for an external drive. Or in Office's case something that can reliably parse the file

Re: Microsoft launches Office for iPad

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Post by sliverstorm »

nakor wrote: post #35
sz4kerto wrote: post #4

MS is changing, and make no mistake, this has started with Ballmer. If you watch(ed) the press conf, it's quite apparent. App store for Android, Office for iPad, AD for Azure.. quite nice stuff, that's what we expect from a software giant: just release stuff for everything, everywhere, and make things be able to work with each other nicely. Good to see that, competition is always good for the users, and Apple, Google…

"App store for Android," What does this mean? Looks interesting.

He's talking about one of these two things:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Microsoft+Co...

http://www.theverge.com/2014/2/12/5404098/microsoft-consider...

Re: Microsoft launches Office for iPad

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Post by batoure »

throwawaymsft wrote: post #141
batoure wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nice... But lets look at the facts. 180 million ipads (of any generation, not all will be able to run this new version of office) currently in circulation. 110 million windows 8 PC's active as of sept 2013.... so yes I agree that microsoft should put their money where their market share is... THEIR market share not apple's, with the decline of xp that number of winodws 8 users is expected to sky rocket... so ya it wo…

But what is a Windows 8 PC? Just because a PC is sold with Win8 (because prior versions aren't available) doesn't mean people are using it as such. They had to bring back "boot to desktop" as a configuration option, and 60% of win8 machines launch metro less than once a day ( https://www.soluto.com/reports ).

so case and point, metro is a pretty cool in function but lacks the apps to make it truly useful... So maybe the company trying to push it should make some. also you cited a link to a 404 page.... and additionally only someone not on windows 8 would believe a statistic like that its not possible to use many of the features of the OS without going into the metro interface... I am hoping that maybe your quote is that "60% of windows 8 machines launch metro apps less than once a day" but that seems like a statistic without a method of measure...

Re: Microsoft launches Office for iPad

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Post by adventured »

sz4kerto wrote: post #4

MS is changing, and make no mistake, this has started with Ballmer. If you watch(ed) the press conf, it's quite apparent. App store for Android, Office for iPad, AD for Azure.. quite nice stuff, that's what we expect from a software giant: just release stuff for everything, everywhere, and make things be able to work with each other nicely. Good to see that, competition is always good for the users, and Apple, Google…

I know it's not a huge deal, but I was always impressed they offered Linux for Azure.

Re: Microsoft launches Office for iPad

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Post by tkubacki »

jasallen wrote: post #134
tkubacki wrote: post #117

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I've got working asp.net ecommerce solutions, but for my last project went back to Java/Dropwizard/IntelliJ - it is just way better dev exp. + perf is much better on Linux. MS will be not interested in supporting competing (Windows Server/MS SQL vs Linux / PostgreSQL) server platform - it's sad but true.

> "I've got working asp.net ecommerce solutions" That sounds to me like a reference to some boxed product running ASP.NET. Possibly aspDotNetStorefront? If so, that competes with PHP platforms for being a mess of code and non-sense design decisions. I can hear people talking about Scala, Ruby, Node and saying better performance + dev experience (whether I agree or not) -- but Java? Not flaming here, that just doesn't…

meh sorry - I mean: working ASP.NET mono ecommerce (no, not aspDotNetStorefront - ASP.NET MVC app on green field). I started when Mono was in Novell's hands and hoped they will push harder for C#/Web/Linux but it didn't happen and now Xamarin is interested solely in mobile so it's even less reasonable to use Mono for web on Linux these days. Don't get me wrong I admire Mono guys but Monodevelop (even recent versions) is just not IntelliJ level IDE and Java with it is not so bad (especially Java8). Maybe I would go with ROR or Python but it's SPA (Dart on client side) so Java is just webservice (Dropwizard makes it frictionless)

Re: Microsoft launches Office for iPad

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Post by batoure »

rodgerd wrote: post #135
kyllo wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that it's a good strategy for Microsoft to make its software run on other platforms. This isn't the 1990s anymore where Windows is the dominant platform. It's not even the early 2000's with the "I'm a Mac vs. I'm a PC" meme. Now there are multiple popular platforms (at least in the consumer market), none with clear dominance, and meanwhile Microsoft's software only works on their own platform. They have to co…

This isn't the 1990s anymore where Windows is the dominant platform. It's always easy to see who's in the bubble.

it speaks to the amazing power of marketing. People are always blown away when they find out that apple has less than a 10% market share and that their market share has actually gone down over the last 10 years.

Re: Microsoft launches Office for iPad

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Post by tanzam75 »

Touche wrote: post #125
kyllo wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that it's a good strategy for Microsoft to make its software run on other platforms. This isn't the 1990s anymore where Windows is the dominant platform. It's not even the early 2000's with the "I'm a Mac vs. I'm a PC" meme. Now there are multiple popular platforms (at least in the consumer market), none with clear dominance, and meanwhile Microsoft's software only works on their own platform. They have to co…

I can't think of any companies who sell software for other platforms that are making anywhere in the same neighborhood as companies that own the platform. Microsoft doesn't want to become another Adobe.

Microsoft Office is broadly used throughout the business world.

Adobe sells to an industry niche of creative professionals. That's a substantially different situation. A lot more computers have Word installed than Photoshop.

Re: Microsoft launches Office for iPad

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Post by octo_t »

rodgerd wrote: post #135
kyllo wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think that it's a good strategy for Microsoft to make its software run on other platforms. This isn't the 1990s anymore where Windows is the dominant platform. It's not even the early 2000's with the "I'm a Mac vs. I'm a PC" meme. Now there are multiple popular platforms (at least in the consumer market), none with clear dominance, and meanwhile Microsoft's software only works on their own platform. They have to co…

This isn't the 1990s anymore where Windows is the dominant platform. It's always easy to see who's in the bubble.

It still dominates overwhelmingly in enterprise, but at homes? People might have a windows box, but lots of older adults (people over 40) just use an iPad in front of the TV instead.

My mum hasn't touched her PC in several months.

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