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Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by Blahah »

baddox wrote: post #92
ekianjo wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I mean, Europe hasn't even moved over to automatic transmission yet. Haha. 1) Driving automatic cars is so boring. 2) it makes your body unbalanced constantly since you use a single foot, therefore your back will ache over long periods of driving. 3) You cannot adjust your speed as fast with an automatic car, we are stuck with binary controls while manual cars provide all the flexibility you need in real, and criti…

Regarding point 2, long freeway drives will still be just as unbalanced with either transmission, or if you have cruise control, more balanced. Regarding point 3, is that really true to an extent that would actually matter for ordinary driving?

In europe, we don't have long freeways. I can drive from one end of my country to the other in a day, and most people don't ever do such long drives.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by gambiting »

GuiA wrote: post #34

Yay, more touch screen in cars. More ways to distract, frustrate and confuse users who are operating a big box of steel weighing 3 tons and going at speeds the human brain has never evolved to appropriately deal with. 1) Not only are touch screens a very poor interactor in the first place [0], but why do you think planes and other complex machinery have stuck with physical controls? For operating complex vehicles/app…

>>(the views in this post are a bit on the extreme side- but that's how interesting conversations get started :-)

They are. I know this is an extremely unpopular opinion on HN, but I would like to drive my own car, thank you very much. I don't mind automatic mode on long journeys on the motorway, but other than that, I want to drive myself - and I hope that automatic driving will not be forced upon us during my lifetime.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by eddieroger »

beloch wrote: post #16

If I were an auto manufacturer, I'd be pushing Apple to open up the standard for interfacing this with phones. iOS and iPhones are great, but are still only used by a fraction of potential customers. Why limit your market so Apple can score some lock-in?

Or, they can continue making their head units an upsell and offer a tightly integrated experience to people who want it, while also making a little extra money on the sale. They've been doing it witn nav upgrades for years.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by gambiting »

Marazan wrote: post #94
Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #74

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I used to think automatics were horrible (I live in the UK, drove manual for 15 years) then I got one... In terms of fuel economy, isn't it just a matter of time before automatics become as economical (then probably more economical) than manuals? Even without anticipating future events? Driving efficiently feels like something a computer could optimise for and that a human has no natural advantage doing.

Without being able to determine future road conditions then automatics can't guarantee being in the "right" gear for the up coming section of road. Be that due to traffic, grading, weather, banking, sharpness of corner etc. My go to example is the insanity of junction 15 of the m8, that loop onto the west bound motorway is a 270 degree corkscrew rising 30 feet with a diameter of 55 yards onto a 5 lane motorway where…

>> Without being able to determine future road conditions then automatics can't guarantee being in the "right" gear for the up coming section of road. Be that due to traffic, grading, weather, banking, sharpness of corner etc.

Latest Rolls-Royce Wraith does exactly that - it uses the GPS map data to change gears in advance as it is approaching a turn in the road. I am sure that this technology will be available in ordinary cars soon enough.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by morganvachon »

cmelbye wrote: post #136
morganvachon wrote: post #132

Wait, so this works with the iPhone 5, yet you have to plug in your phone to make it work? What is this, 2003? I get in my car, the radio syncs up to my WP8 phone via Bluetooth, and if I get a text message I can have the car read it to me. I can dictate the response, or choose to ignore it, or call back the person, all with my voice. It can play music from my phone, including internet radio. I can call up an address…

There is not a phone on the market that will project an interface over Bluetooth to a display in the car. What curve are they behind exactly?

Do you really think it's mirroring the phone's display onto the car's screen? That would be pointless, as you don't want dozens of irrelevant app icons cluttering your car's display. You want the basic controls that are useful in a car, with large targets that can be hit with a glance and later with muscle memory.

If you really think they are just mirroring the display, then you didn't even look at the linked Apple page.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by beedogs »

Am I alone in thinking Apple should be worrying more about fixing iOS 7 rather than porting it to a lot of new devices? It is easily the buggiest version of iOS I've used (4 through 7.)

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by MrScruff »

lutusp wrote: post #82
MrScruff wrote: post #66

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As I understand it current self driving car technology fails whenever the situation becomes sufficiently complex (eg. icy/wet roads, some other unexpected traffic situation) and require the driver to take control at this point. My inference from that was that the 'simple' problems have been solved, but to have technology that can safely drive an intoxicated person home would require solving another set of much harder…

> My inference from that was that the 'simple' problems have been solved, but to have technology that can safely drive an intoxicated person home would require solving another set of much harder problems. But they already have cars that drive themselves, without human interference. Google (and other companies') engineers have been driving them all over the country on test runs. Obviously if the car will drive itself…

But they already have cars that drive themselves, without human interference. Google (and other companies') engineers have been driving them all over the country on test runs. Obviously if the car will drive itself to a specified destination autonomously, the physical state of the occupant is no longer an issue.

The physical state of the occupant is an issue if there are situations where the occupant might need to regain control of the vehicle. Unless the autonomous car can handle all potential situations the occupant will still need to be in a fit state to drive the vehicle.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by MaintainPrice »

lostlogin wrote: post #68
beaker52 wrote: post #60

As a consumer, that is an expensive way to find yourself locked in to increasing Apple device prices.

Why do you say they are increasing? I paid the same for my 5s as I paid for my 4. Thats a decrease after inflation. Macs are much cheaper than they used to be.

Depends on the country. In the USA the launch price has held steady since the iPhone 4, but everywhere else the off-contract price has been steadily increasing. It's now $720 in Canada. Same with some of the Macs (e.g. Mac mini jumps around during the rare refresh)
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