Dogecoin market manipulation?
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#142This illustrates a simple idea in economics: cartels are hard to maintain because participants will look out for their own self-interest.
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#143I'm not sure why it's on HN, but it's real. It was originally happening in the public channel #dogecoin-market on Freenode but was then moved to the private channel #marketmakers, which seems to have spurred people to start sharing it everywhere since now it's private. Wolong is the guy who brought the Dogecoin price to where it is now by investing a ton of money into it, and due to that and some charisma he's attrac…
Ultimately, there are two kinds of people that these con artists make money off of, and both have this overconfidence that they can outsmart the market:
1. Collaborators: these are the people who think that they are in on Fontas or Wolong's plan, but aren't. Ultimately, some of these people will make money some of the time, but most will lose money.
2. Manic-or-panic day traders: these people fall prey to a these market manipulations because they are at the wrong place at the wrong time. If they're paying attention when the market spikes, they start buying high thinking it will rise further, and if they're paying attention when the market drops they sell low thinking it will fall further. It may actually be worse to be this kind of trader, because often the only person conning such people is themselves. Their emotional approach to investing causes them to fall prey to every market fluctuation, even ones that aren't caused by any manipulation.
The kicker here is that I believe most day-traders fall into that second group. A lot of them are still making money on cryptocurrencies simply because cryptocurrencies have been growing so rapidly, leading them to believe that their strategies have worked, but the vast majority would make more by simply investing their money and sitting on it. My theory is backed up by how people tend to invest on wall street, which has been well-researched at this point.
What I'm trying to say to anyone reading this is that if you're trading day-to-day, unless you have a very thoroughly proven mathematical model, you're likely in the second group. Don't let overconfidence and greed make you a mark. You aren't likely to outsmart the market. Besides, this market is doing pretty well anyway.
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#144Funny how these crypto currency people bash on the Wallstreet but then pull of the same stunts with official unmonitored currencies.
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#145Funny how these crypto currency people bash on the Wallstreet but then pull of the same stunts with official unmonitored currencies.
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Do not invest anything you are not prepared to lose. Let me fix that for you: > Do not gamble anything you are not prepared to lose.
Investing always is a gamble.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
What you do, is living in tornado zone and counting each day without tornado as a win attributed to our skill on picking and swapping houses in the zone.
A think a more apt analogy would be comparing it to something like poker. Yes it's risky, but if you know how to navigate markets, it's a controlled risk, in which you can come out ahead more often than not...
In my country to ride the bus you buy tickets in the shop. Once you get into the bus you invalidate the ticket by printing date and hour on the ticket with the device installed there.
Once in a while (once in few weeks or months depending on your luck and how much you ride) the guy shows up on your ride who checks if everyone has properly invalidated tickets. If you don't have one, you'll get a fine.
If you wish you may never buy the tickets and just pay fines when they happen. Every time you ride without the ticket you earn but you take the risk of the fine. You might argue that it's contolled risk since you estimated how often fine happens on average. But everything is awesome until one time you encounter streak of fines that eat up all your previous earnings and some future ones too.
It's the same game that those banks that invested in derivatives were playing.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
Miners have to pay for electricity and hardware. I doubt they're doing that with Dogecoins.
Doge had been the most profitable altcoin to mine several times in the past couple months.
Sure, if you are a gamer with "pre-paid" graphics card AND "free" electricity, you may elect to keep your mined Doge.
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
Once upon a time in a small village a man appeared who announced to all the villagers that he would buy monkeys for $10. The villagers knew that the jungle held countless monkeys, easily caught. The man bought 2 thousand. As the supply diminished, they become difficult to catch, and villagers returned to their farms. The man announced that he would pay $20. The villagers renewed their efforts and caught 1,000 more mo…
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Re: Dogecoin market manipulation?
#150I'm not sure why it's on HN, but it's real. It was originally happening in the public channel #dogecoin-market on Freenode but was then moved to the private channel #marketmakers, which seems to have spurred people to start sharing it everywhere since now it's private. Wolong is the guy who brought the Dogecoin price to where it is now by investing a ton of money into it, and due to that and some charisma he's attrac…
It's funny how so many people are avoiding trading now because they're afraid of him. If you can't even handle some bored 13-year-old princeling, do you really think you're going to somehow do way better going up against Goldman Sachs in the real markets?