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Today I Briefed Congress on the NSA

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Re: Today I Briefed Congress on the NSA

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> I do not actually consider a society with any investment in state secrecy to be actually functioning. Either everyone gets to know the President's credit card number or it's tyranny?

I don't necessarily agree with the thesis of the post you're responding to, but your example is personal privacy on the part of someone who happens to hold office, not a state secret.

Yeah, that was sort of intentional, I'm suggesting that distinction doesn't actually get us very far as it might seem at first glance.

For instance, there's probably a billing account or two assigned to just the office. That wouldn't be personal, but wouldn't be something the state just passes around either.

You could retort that's still not "state secrety" enough. We could then exhaustively try to separate the sheep from the goats, but it's probably just a definitional minefield.

We can probably skip all that and agree on the broader point, though: absolutisms aren't very useful here. They're seductive because of their intellectual purity. But despite our best intentions, we're inevitably going to end up haggling over what's a good secret or bad.

Probably many people will have different opinions on that question that are all prima facie reasonable, but that's ok, just so long as we avoid adopting an all or nothing approach because it seems easier.

Re: Today I Briefed Congress on the NSA

#142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't necessarily agree with the thesis of the post you're responding to, but your example is personal privacy on the part of someone who happens to hold office, not a state secret.

Yeah, that was sort of intentional, I'm suggesting that distinction doesn't actually get us very far as it might seem at first glance. For instance, there's probably a billing account or two assigned to just the office. That wouldn't be personal, but wouldn't be something the state just passes around either. You could retort that's still not "state secrety" enough. We could then exhaustively try to separate the sheep…

The office billing account is a much better example. It is a secret that is legitimately preserved by the state, without there being room for corruption (if we publish the transaction history) that wouldn't be present anyway if the secret were disclosed.

Re: Today I Briefed Congress on the NSA

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Fun fact: you can actually read the transcript of rulings on clearance decisions for DoD contractors: http://www.dod.mil/dodgc/doha/industrial/2013.html It's true that many people are denied because of their finances, but it's not as cut and dry as you might think. You also have to wonder what some of these people were thinking. That the DoD wouldn't notice you're on probation and a drug user?

Thanks for this link. It's really fantastic to read some of the reasons for approval and denial.. Here's a good one that was really interesting to me for personal reasons since some of the facts are similar to mine: "Applicant was born in Iran. He left Iran in 1985, was educated in the United States, married a native-born U.S. citizen, and became a U.S. citizen. He adopted an American name when he became a U.S. citiz…

Well, good luck to you! If you decide to go this route, I think the trick is making yourself very desirable to a defense contractor so that they'll sponsor your clearance and go to bat for you.

Re: Today I Briefed Congress on the NSA

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On his blog Schneier comments that this meeting was kept small on purpose. I wanted to see who was present at this meeting so I looked up some of their information. Not hard to find, but here you go. I plan on emailing each of them and thanking them for consulting someone the tech industry considers a Security SME. Rep. Logfren (Democratic) http://lofgren.house.gov/biography/ Wikipedia - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…

(If you use Facebook) I recommend following Rep. Amash as he explains every one of his votes in a status update. It's a great way to stay informed, and he actually approaches his decisions with sensible reasoning you'll enjoy (regardless of your political leanings).

I'm not American, but I follow Amash. Voluntary transparency in a politician is a wonderful thing.

Re: Today I Briefed Congress on the NSA

#145

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I only have a passing knowledge of how data security is handled by the government, but I suspect that the fact that they are discussing classified material which Schneier should not have access to may make using an SCIF more bureaucratically challenging.

Looking at the comment section, Schneier writes: "My guess is that because I am untrusted, I might plant a bug in the SCIF. So it's less that I'm not allowed in, and more that if I was allowed in they would have to re-SCIF the place."

One would think that re-scif-ing procedures already was in place, though? It would be hopelessly naive to not re-check such rooms?
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