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Re: Download a copy of your Gmail and Google Calendar data

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At sodding last. Previously they only allowed IMAP interface, but their IMAP was fucked-up and broken. Most of the development work on offlineimap was compensating for Google's blithe disregard for piffling details like the RFC.

I think you mean, they've spent years compensating for assuming that everyone would implement the RFCs similarly.

I'm not aware of RFC breakage, do you have any pointers?

Re: Download a copy of your Gmail and Google Calendar data

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raises hand http://gmvault.org/ How does anyone get upset when something they're not paying for stops working?

You definitely pay for gmail. Paraphrasing Heinlein, you pay for it other than with money.

I swear people will find a way to feel entitled to just about anything.

Re: Download a copy of your Gmail and Google Calendar data

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Thanks for sharing. In the case of GMVault, how "important" do you think your email needs to be for you to use something like that, as opposed to using Google's solution when it comes out? Or asked in a different way, what do you feel GMVault could offer which regularly archiving emails using the Google solution can't?

You can automate gmvault to snag everything and then just do daily/weekly syncs instead of manually having to remember to go to a website every once in a while and download everything each time.

This is how I have gmvault set up. Runs in the background. Very much effortless after initial setup.

Re: Download a copy of your Gmail and Google Calendar data

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Here is the simplest solution I found to taking a backup of your gmail. The only glitch is that the mirror account will of course be a perfect image only if you set up the forwarding from day one :-( I had to use gmvault (gmvault.org/) to make a copy of my gmail; it was quite doable. Pasted from http://www.webmonkey.com/2008/11/simple_solutions_to_help_yo... "Create some backup accounts — This one is so obvious I’m a…

Thanks for sharing. In the case of GMVault, how "important" do you think your email needs to be for you to use something like that, as opposed to using Google's solution when it comes out? Or asked in a different way, what do you feel GMVault could offer which regularly archiving emails using the Google solution can't?

I used GMVault only because Google's solution was not out there at that time. However, as others have mentioned, GMVault works on an incremental basis after the first download, while the Google solution seems to be a snapshot-only service (not 100% sure yet).

By the way, my first download with GMVault (eml format, each email separately gzipped up because I did not read the command line options properly) was : 22900 mails which took up 2 GB of disk space.

Re: Download a copy of your Gmail and Google Calendar data

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The problem I have with this download a copy approach is that it's not a great backup (not automatic, not easy to find individual things to restore, etc).

For that, I use CloudPull from http://goldenhillsoftware.com and it's by far the best Google backup tool I've found. I've tried gmvault, fetchmail, offlineimap, and pretty much every thing in between.

CloudPull supports Gmail, Google Contacts, Google Calendar, and Google Drive/Docs. The app backs up Google accounts in the background and all the data is available in standard file formats.

Anyway, I don't think enough people know about it. If you want a useful automatic backup of your Google life, give it a whirl. It's one of my favorite pieces of software.

Re: Download a copy of your Gmail and Google Calendar data

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OK, so let's say I export all emails from Gmail from 2004 til today and I want to import them into Outlook.com. How would I go about doing this?

Imap. Simplest solution might be:

* download & open up thunderbird

* Add 2 accounts: your existing gmail account, and your new outlook.com account

* select all email in the inbox of your gmail account, ctrl+c [this will take a while]

* open the inbox (or other folder) of the outlook account, ctrl+v

Personally, the largest migration I've done using this method was ~1GB, but should work for larger accounts as well. Hope this helps!

Re: Download a copy of your Gmail and Google Calendar data

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To play devil's advocate - you willingly gave it to them, with almost zero contractual expectations. In a technical sense it is their stuff, and they have graciously implemented a feature allowing you to retrieve a copy of it. I definitely agree that it's the "right" thing to do, but this kind of comment speaks of entitlement and lack of personal responsibility. They're offering a service, they don't have any inheren…

I am paying them for this so I expect more.

You can expect what they've laid out in the contract you agreed to.

Re: Download a copy of your Gmail and Google Calendar data

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If Google simply shut down Gmail, their stockholders would pretty much fire the entire leadership of the company. It would be professional suicide to approve something like that.

I wonder if Page, Brin and Schmidt (the majority stockholders) would fire Larry, Sergei and Eric.

I see what you did there.

Re: Download a copy of your Gmail and Google Calendar data

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I have ambivalent feelings about this. All in all, this is my stuff.

To play devil's advocate - you willingly gave it to them, with almost zero contractual expectations. In a technical sense it is their stuff, and they have graciously implemented a feature allowing you to retrieve a copy of it. I definitely agree that it's the "right" thing to do, but this kind of comment speaks of entitlement and lack of personal responsibility. They're offering a service, they don't have any inheren…

I have ambivalent feelings too but more in a gracious sense. I have long hold the philosophy that data should be treated as a consumer's personal property. Companies have reasonable rights to refuse to serve but they shouldn't be given authority to confiscate consumer's personal property and close their accounts unless warranted by the law of the land.
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