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Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Post by afriend4lyfe »

I'm new to web design and have been experimenting with a few other development environments. Reading through these comments I became excited to learn more about foundation. I went to their site and looked at their site examples. Many of them were broken and didn't seem to work as intended, nor were they very beautiful to the uninitiated. This was on a desktop using chrome. I didn't bother to check with my mobile.

My main platform so far has been extremely buggy too and is not even primarily made to create websites. I've been using Google Web Designer. Take my advice with a grain of salt as I represent hobbyist developers who thought "hey, i'd like to build a site. what tool should I start with?" I would not invest $200 to enroll in your intro course for something that gave me an initial first impression of being flimsy. However, it is equally likely that I am unable to realize the full potential of your product with my limited understanding of web development at first glance.

I'm excited about seeing how Macaw works and am going to begin a new project with Bootstrap soon. While my main focus has been purely static web design I plan to incorporate dynamic applications within my approach very soon.

Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Post by wmeredith »

dodyg wrote: post #66
Jgrubb wrote: post #18

On the one hand it's never been a better time to be a front end dev, and on the other it's absolutely crazy how fast front end technology is progressing the last couple years. I just caught on to Foundation 4 in the last 4 months or so, and now here's a new release that's way more evolved. Amazing. Thanks to the Zurb team! I'll definitely be ripping off lots of ideas for my company's tortoise-speed Drupal sites.

Faster iteration isn't necessarily better actually especially if people don't care forward compatibility. Maybe it's just different culture. For example bootstrap 3 is a breaking upgrade and suddenly your just finished bootstrap 2 is using 'unsupported' framework.

But doesn't "supported" mean iteration? If you don't want to use them why do you care if your framework is "supported" or not?

Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Post by rok3 »

ollysb wrote: post #62
baby wrote: post #40

Wow, that was fast ! I love Foundation, but I had to switch to Boostrap because I found it... ugly. And Bootstrap is great to quickly create "pretty" prototypes. But I've always found Foundation having better... foundations. I've used both on numerous projects and here's my take : * The grid system now looks like bootstrap, and I don't like that. You have to choose the type of column you want to use (and I don't want…

> I love Foundation, but I had to switch to Boostrap because I found it... ugly. I consider this is a strength, the styling is thinner so it's easier to customise. Bootstrap can feel like a bit of a battle if you want to customise it a lot. I think bootstrap is perfect for admin pages but for something a bit more custom I think foundation strikes a good balance.

Yeah, I use Foundation for sites because I know that I'm going to completely customize the CSS.

I use Bootstrap for web apps because I rarely need to write any CSS to get a working beta that looks nice. After I've gotten input back from the initial users I'll go back and customize the look.

Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

#145

Post by Stratoscope »

janus wrote: post #127
wildermuthn wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Suggestion: JavaScript.

Camel cased would actually be javaScript

Idiomatic JavaScript code uses both PascalCase and camelCase.

Constructors use PascalCase; variables and methods use camelCase.

So, it's OK to call it JavaScript! :-)

Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

#146

Post by actionscripted »

afriend4lyfe wrote: post #141

I'm new to web design and have been experimenting with a few other development environments. Reading through these comments I became excited to learn more about foundation. I went to their site and looked at their site examples. Many of them were broken and didn't seem to work as intended, nor were they very beautiful to the uninitiated. This was on a desktop using chrome. I didn't bother to check with my mobile. My…

When you get into those dynamic applications I think you'll find the likes of Foundation much more appealing. This is not a WYSIWYG-style tool, this is for developers building sites by hand and the example styles aren't often used in production.

Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Post by jakethehuman »

__david__ wrote: post #139
avolcano wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is insane. I have literally never seen a large-scale open source project or JS style guide that uses snake_case. The DOM is camelCase. jQuery is camelCase. Node APIs are camelCase. Why on earth do Zurb think their library is any different?

> This is insane. Really? Why on earth would you care? What if they were to indent their code with 3 spaces? Would that be "insane", too? What if they don't like putting in unnecessary braces around one line "if" statements? Insane? It's a (very common) stylistic choice. It's hardly insane.

>What if they were to indent their code with 3 spaces?

Whoa there buddy! Put the gun down...

Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Post by jakethehuman »

__david__ wrote: post #139
avolcano wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is insane. I have literally never seen a large-scale open source project or JS style guide that uses snake_case. The DOM is camelCase. jQuery is camelCase. Node APIs are camelCase. Why on earth do Zurb think their library is any different?

> This is insane. Really? Why on earth would you care? What if they were to indent their code with 3 spaces? Would that be "insane", too? What if they don't like putting in unnecessary braces around one line "if" statements? Insane? It's a (very common) stylistic choice. It's hardly insane.

>What if they were to indent their code with 3 spaces?

Whoa buddy! Put down the gun...

On a serious note... is this trolling or are people seriously complaining about camel-case vs snake-case?

Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Post by jakethehuman »

__david__ wrote: post #139
avolcano wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is insane. I have literally never seen a large-scale open source project or JS style guide that uses snake_case. The DOM is camelCase. jQuery is camelCase. Node APIs are camelCase. Why on earth do Zurb think their library is any different?

> This is insane. Really? Why on earth would you care? What if they were to indent their code with 3 spaces? Would that be "insane", too? What if they don't like putting in unnecessary braces around one line "if" statements? Insane? It's a (very common) stylistic choice. It's hardly insane.

>What if they were to indent their code with 3 spaces?

Whoa buddy! Put down the gun...

On a serious note... is this trolling or are people seriously complaining about camel-case vs snake-case?

Re: Zurb Foundation 5 Released

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Post by xwowsersx »

bluejaythemes wrote: post #75
xwowsersx wrote: post #6

I don't know why (maybe I'm just not good with css and html in general), but I'm always confused when looking at these grid systems. Trying to use zurb in a project now and I'm kinda lost. Any good resources other than their docs for sort of showing how to use zurb in a full project?

Webdesigntuts+ has a thorough series covering Foundation 4 you might be interested in. If your a Lynda subscriber, they’ve got a couple of courses on Foundation 4, as well. There’s not a whole lot of difference between the grid in Foundation 4 and Foundation 5. Foundation 5 does add a new medium breakpoint which is great for tablets. http://www.webdesign.tutsplus.com/tutorials/htmlcss-tutorial... http://www.lynda.com…

Thank you for this. I will definitely check out the tutsplus tutorial!
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