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Why I won't get a Google+ Custom URL

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Re: Why I won't get a Google+ Custom URL

#141
I remember having been similarly surprised by the TOS.

However, the only annoyance and consequence of it, to me, is that I cannot share the link anymore than I used to. So I switched, and I'll switch back if they ask me to pay.

I am much more worried about them discontinuing Gmail. Since Reader, I have no idea what they are ready to kill.

Re: Why I won't get a Google+ Custom URL

#142
post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Me in 1993: Yeah, but seriously, nobody is going to start charging for domain names. Writing a hundred bytes in your named.conf? What would you charge, ten cents? Doesn't make sense. And everybody swaps secondary service with everybody else, and your upstream includes it at no extra charge.

1993. I considered registering cocacola.com, sex.com, shell.com, etc. etc. Spent the money on consumables instead. There are few moments I remember as clearly as making that decision.

Now that people mostly use search engines instead of typing whatever.com, I imagine domain squatters don't get as much traffic.

As I see it, the purpose of search engines is to route around squatters and find real content, no matter where it's hosted.

Re: Why I won't get a Google+ Custom URL

#144
post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1993. I considered registering cocacola.com, sex.com, shell.com, etc. etc. Spent the money on consumables instead. There are few moments I remember as clearly as making that decision.

Now that people mostly use search engines instead of typing whatever.com, I imagine domain squatters don't get as much traffic. As I see it, the purpose of search engines is to route around squatters and find real content, no matter where it's hosted.

The domains are still worth a lot though.

Re: Why I won't get a Google+ Custom URL

#145
post #73

Here's how it works. The techies create something. The legals come along and say, OK, to release that in the wild it needs some T&Cs that cover our arses for everything and then some, because people keep sueing us. In practice, would Google ever dare invoke this on a large scale? No, you know that. Yes, there should be some transparent process that is undertaken if yours were revoked, but Google only like stuff that…

Me in 1993: Yeah, but seriously, nobody is going to start charging for domain names. Writing a hundred bytes in your named.conf? What would you charge, ten cents? Doesn't make sense. And everybody swaps secondary service with everybody else, and your upstream includes it at no extra charge.

I recall thinking how messy web pages looked compared to gopher, which seemed more organized. I was using text browsers for both, of course.

Re: Why I won't get a Google+ Custom URL

#146

Honest question: are these terms of service significantly different than other services? Do Twitter / Github / etc have similar terms?

I came here to point this out. I would imagine other services have pretty much the same exact lingo in their terms. I think the author should definitely look into those before he claims Google+ to be worse. It seems like a very bias judgement before he does his background on the other services.

But he isn't trying to "unbiasedly compare services" not claim google+ is worse.

Re: Why I won't get a Google+ Custom URL

#148

Here's how it works. The techies create something. The legals come along and say, OK, to release that in the wild it needs some T&Cs that cover our arses for everything and then some, because people keep sueing us. In practice, would Google ever dare invoke this on a large scale? No, you know that. Yes, there should be some transparent process that is undertaken if yours were revoked, but Google only like stuff that…

So, we're talking Google here. IF your assessment is true, then Google is certainly reigned by lawyers, not engineers. Point taken.

Reigned? Based on the inclusion of one cover-your-ass clause that has so far never been exercised in the terms and conditions of one product?

If this is your idea of sufficient evidence that a company is run by lawyers, I'd challenge you to find a single company that isn't. I don't believe I've ever seen an agreement that didn't say that the company could change the terms at any time and that continued usage constituted acceptance of the new terms. All of those agreements implicitly allow exactly what Google has explicitly allowed for.

Re: Why I won't get a Google+ Custom URL

#149

facebook - choose whatever username you want HN - choose whatever username you want twitter - choose whatever username you want reddit - choose whatever username you want tumblr - choose whatever username you want Google+ - we choose it for you, you can't change it, we might charge you for it, and we might also take it away at some point also - why does G+ need to insert the /u/0 after the domain name? twitter, faceb…

The /u/0 just means you're using multilogin. For example, if you log in as foo@gmail.com, and then log in as bar@gmail.com via multilogin, gmail.com/u/0/inbox/whatever will take you to foo's email, and gmail.com/u/1/inbox/whatever will take you to bar's. You can thus have adjacent tabs accessing both accounts simultaneously.

Also, /u/0 is the default; you can remove it from the URL and it'll continue working just fine.

Re: Why I won't get a Google+ Custom URL

#150
Doesn't ALL free services have he same sort of clause?

I'm missing what's new compared to using... put here any the non-paid service online?

EDIT:

Here are Gmail Terms of Service[1]: --- Modifying and Terminating our Services

We are constantly changing and improving our Services. We may add or remove functionalities or features, and we may suspend or stop a Service altogether. ---

What happens if they suddenly suspend their service? NOTHING! :-) we all hope and have many reasons to believe that they wont do that, anytime soon.

[1]: http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/update/

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