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Re: HP Chromebook 11

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FYI, this page only links to Amazon which says shipping on the 20th - but if you go to the Google Play Store and Devices, it's there in multiple colors (black, or white w/accents) and ships by the 11th.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Ordered. I absolutely love my ARM-based Chromebook, and have wished for the same specs with a bit better construction and build quality. This is absolutely perfect for my needs, and the keyboard looks to be marginally better as well. I've hardly touched my MB Air (2012 refurb) since I got the Chromebook. Small and light enough to throw in any bag/backpack without care, cheap enough to not worry about theft. I don't m…

I can understand buying a Chromebook instead of a Macbook Air, but I see lots of people saying that they have both yet still prefer the Chromebook. What is it that makes a Chromebook so much better than a Macbook that has vastly superior construction, better battery life, and significantly more power? The Macbook air is small enough to take anywhere, and let me assure you, people will steal anything. Didn't Stallman'…

For me personally Chrome OS is that compelling, that is what I like about Chromebooks. The browser, where I live 90% of the time on computers, is the default view in Chrome OS. And I get an extremely secure OS that acts as a dummy terminal to more powerful computers.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Ordered. I absolutely love my ARM-based Chromebook, and have wished for the same specs with a bit better construction and build quality. This is absolutely perfect for my needs, and the keyboard looks to be marginally better as well. I've hardly touched my MB Air (2012 refurb) since I got the Chromebook. Small and light enough to throw in any bag/backpack without care, cheap enough to not worry about theft. I don't m…

Also you can quickly wipe the thing before entering a situation where it might get lost/stolen/confiscated [1]. Then take 5 minutes to set it up again on the other end.

[1]: Such as:

- A sketchy neighborhood

- Leaving it at home while you're away for a long time

- Customs/border (where 4th amendment is N/A)

- Non-border transfer at LHR (e.g. David Miranda)

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Hemingway said that one goes broke "gradually, then suddenly." I hope the same thing is happening to Windows marketshare. I hope the same thing is happening to iOS. edit: Note that I said "marketshare." I'm not wishing bankruptcy on Apple and Microsoft. It would be a weird desire.

A company that loses marketshare quickly is likely to declare bankruptcy - the two are not uncorrelated. Be careful what you wish for.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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While I appreciate your response, I would love to see some actual data to back up your conclusions.

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Computers-Accessories-Lap...

Top of Amazon doesn't really mean much.

http://conversations.nokia.com/2012/04/12/nokia-lumia-900-do...

Here's some analysis based on browsing data usage which shows sales were worse than Windows RT.

http://www.zdnet.com/first-real-world-usage-figures-suggest-...

If Chromebooks sales are good , why don't they release real official numbers?

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Just curious, what are your use cases with it? I've been considering one as a cheap Linux dev box but it seems like installing a second OS is a pain and that there's little to no HD space left after doing so. I've been eyeing a Sony laptop that costs ~$370 bit it is quite bulky.

Yeah I have been wanting to pick a Chromebook up for exactly the same thing. I can imagine Arch with Awesome being great on one but it seems Google have made it a pain in the ass to get rid of Chrome OS and stick something else on. While I live in my browser I still work in a text editor/IDE and need a terminal with GCC and other bits. Lenovo have some nice portable machines but, like you said about the Sony, they ar…

>at $500 or less

You might be interested in our 2016 models.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Seems like your best bet would be an Intel Chromebook like the Acer C7 - you can easily swap the SSD with bigger one, add RAM and install XFCE/Unity using one of the many options. It has fans though and you will notice those! And the battery life isn't stellar. But at least it is cheap and relatively light weight and comes with USB ports.

The Acer C720 actually looks quite nice although AFAICT you still can't wipe and install your own OS? You have to use the same methods as we currently have like crouton.

That's right. Something to do with the different type of firmware used in the Chromebooks you couldn't install Windows on them. XFCE on ChromeOS is as close as you'll get.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Ordered. I absolutely love my ARM-based Chromebook, and have wished for the same specs with a bit better construction and build quality. This is absolutely perfect for my needs, and the keyboard looks to be marginally better as well. I've hardly touched my MB Air (2012 refurb) since I got the Chromebook. Small and light enough to throw in any bag/backpack without care, cheap enough to not worry about theft. I don't m…

> cheap enough to not worry about theft

This is definitely a valid point. I'm terrified of losing my macbook pro :-/

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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Hemingway said that one goes broke "gradually, then suddenly." I hope the same thing is happening to Windows marketshare. I hope the same thing is happening to iOS. edit: Note that I said "marketshare." I'm not wishing bankruptcy on Apple and Microsoft. It would be a weird desire.

I prefer that there be competition between a variety choices for OS and platforms. I don't wish for any of them to go away.

Yep. I'm hoping for a plausible 3rd player in mobile. I'd prefer it to be Mozilla but even MS would be better than a duopoly.

Re: HP Chromebook 11

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This thing being blatantly aimed at the education market, Google really need to do the unthinkable and let people host their own server backends to support these devices, otherwise they're simply data sucking machines. That their own educational programming environment runs on a RaspPi and can't be hosted on a Chromebook speaks volumes. And I have a Chromebook, which I'll freely admit is brilliant for many things, bu…

Huh? It's a web browser. Anyone can "host their own server backends" to whatever extent they desire.

Not quite - they're very dependent on your Google account, which is the login.

You can't run servers on the devices themselves, without something like crouton. They also miss features like Bonjour interoperability to make local service discovery just painful enough to force you into the cloud. The result of this is when you are away from the Internet, which happens way more often than a lot of people seem to believe, they become utterly useless.

The problem with Chrome OS is Google's larger strategic objectives are guiding their product direction. It seems like Android only became what it did thanks to Apple effectively forcing their hands, but as it stands Android on the same devices would be enormously more useful.

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