Live data from Hacker News

BlackBerry to cut 4,500 jobs, predicts 2nd quarter loss of $950M

cbc.ca

141–150 of 157 posts

Re: BlackBerry to cut 4,500 jobs, predicts 2nd quarter loss of $950M

#141
post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not a fan of Microsoft, but they have a reputation of throwing money at something for a long period of time and it succeeding.

People keep saying this, but there's little evidence outside of the X Box.

IE?

Re: BlackBerry to cut 4,500 jobs, predicts 2nd quarter loss of $950M

#142
post #16

I sympathize strongly with the people who lost their job. I don't, however, sympathize with the company that made their decision to go it alone despite overwhelming evidence that there isn't room for another platform. iOS, Android, the Web. That's it. That's all there's going to be for the foreseeable future in mobile. Even Microsoft is failing at this. How much evidence does a company need to see that their strategy…

>>Even Microsoft is failing at this. How much evidence does a company need to see that their strategy was doomed? The BB, Nokia, HTC etc problem is one of cash /runaway. Nokia was almost broke and how many $950M loss quarters can BB take? Not that many. Microsoft can keep bankrolling Windows Phones for a decade waiting for iPhone and Android to make mistakes and no one will even question them. Look at what they've do…

BB can take 9-10 loss quarters (2.5 years) based on how much equity they have left. That's why they are looking for someone to buy them out.

Re: BlackBerry to cut 4,500 jobs, predicts 2nd quarter loss of $950M

#143
post #138
post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Desktops are a huge, but declining business. In laptops they already have serious competition in Samsung's ARM-based Chromebooks. Besides, laptops also don't grow nearly as fast as smartphones and tablets. In markets, it's the growth that matters most, not the current revenue.

Intel is fine. They have such a huge manufacturing and capital advantage they can afford to lose time after time, whereas the likes of AMD and ARM can only afford to lose once. Intel will own the mobile space in a decade or so.

Well AMD will make ARM processors as well. Hint: ARM Holdings do not manufacture processors.

Re: BlackBerry to cut 4,500 jobs, predicts 2nd quarter loss of $950M

#144
post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why "Google Android" instead of just "Android" (or alternately you could, I suppose, go with "Apple iOS"), because the latter much more closely mirrors what has happened in the market. Unless personal assistant robots have taken off corresponding with Android, I don't think it's being polluted much.

There is also cisco ios, which would also feature heavily on the web I would imagine.

I just typed 'ios' into Google and didn't see anything pertaining to Cisco ios in the first 10 pages. In fact even the International Organization for Succulent Plant Study rates higher than Cisco for the search term 'ios'

Re: BlackBerry to cut 4,500 jobs, predicts 2nd quarter loss of $950M

#145
post #16

I sympathize strongly with the people who lost their job. I don't, however, sympathize with the company that made their decision to go it alone despite overwhelming evidence that there isn't room for another platform. iOS, Android, the Web. That's it. That's all there's going to be for the foreseeable future in mobile. Even Microsoft is failing at this. How much evidence does a company need to see that their strategy…

"I don't, however, sympathize with the company that made their decision to go it alone despite overwhelming evidence that there isn't room for another platform." - I'm confused. They were THE leading mobile platform. So they didn't decide to enter a crowded market. The market got super crowded and they didn't respond well. But I don't understand the "go it alone" unless you mean innovating too late to roll out a new…

Nokia always had a bigger smartphone market share than bb world wide.

Re: BlackBerry to cut 4,500 jobs, predicts 2nd quarter loss of $950M

#146
The juxtaposition of these two headlines on Ars struck me with some awe: "Grand Theft Auto V rakes in over $1 billion in three days", "Blackberry warns of near-$1 billion loss this quarter". Especially since they're more tangible 'billions' than the Instagram deal.

Re: BlackBerry to cut 4,500 jobs, predicts 2nd quarter loss of $950M

#147
It just occurred to me that BlackBerry is playing a brilliant strategy. This billion dollar writedown lowers the stocks so it can be taken private. Meanwhile, BlackBerry announces the flagship Z30 to get users excited.

Z10 hasn't been out that long, and already they're writing off stock? And Z10 is such an awesome phone, anyone who actually uses one loves it.

It could only be for one reason, to take the company private asap.

I expect announcement of a sale soon.

Re: BlackBerry to cut 4,500 jobs, predicts 2nd quarter loss of $950M

#148
From what I have gathered they have not managed the growth hiring people below the original level. A company with 12000 employes should be unmanageable because of bureaucracy anyway. After some point new people only slow you down. Hope the old core is still there and something will finally come out of this.

Re: BlackBerry to cut 4,500 jobs, predicts 2nd quarter loss of $950M

#149
post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Desktops are a huge, but declining business. In laptops they already have serious competition in Samsung's ARM-based Chromebooks. Besides, laptops also don't grow nearly as fast as smartphones and tablets. In markets, it's the growth that matters most, not the current revenue.

Android runs on x86, and Bay Trail could put Intel right back in the game if they get vendors on board: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7314/intel-baytrail-preview-in...

Intel's Atom line has been announced circa the time of the original iPhone. Should I say more?

Re: BlackBerry to cut 4,500 jobs, predicts 2nd quarter loss of $950M

#150
post #138
post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Desktops are a huge, but declining business. In laptops they already have serious competition in Samsung's ARM-based Chromebooks. Besides, laptops also don't grow nearly as fast as smartphones and tablets. In markets, it's the growth that matters most, not the current revenue.

Intel is fine. They have such a huge manufacturing and capital advantage they can afford to lose time after time, whereas the likes of AMD and ARM can only afford to lose once. Intel will own the mobile space in a decade or so.

Could you define how "ARM" would lose, given that "ARM" is an ISA which has different licensing levels and is implemented by multiple companies (including some that are larger than Intel - Samsung, Qualcomm, Apple).
Post reply on HN