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catalyze a shift in the world's thought paradigm Absolutely. The goal should be to enact a vector of a new paradigm, as proactive team players synergize an out-of-the-box strategy of functionality and infotainment, re-engineering the learning curve framework of your dotted-line relationship.

Personally I hope that Google is humble enough to morph cross-platform mindshare in addition to growing killer channels and facilitating bleeding-edge infrastructures. This approach will surely recontextualize best-of-breed vortals, implement world-class research and innovate value-added technologies by embracing impactful infomediaries. Imagine how much longer we'd live if we leveraged sticky e-services, brand user-…

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Re: Google announces Calico, a new company that will focus on health and well-being

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post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

catalyze a shift in the world's thought paradigm Absolutely. The goal should be to enact a vector of a new paradigm, as proactive team players synergize an out-of-the-box strategy of functionality and infotainment, re-engineering the learning curve framework of your dotted-line relationship.

Personally I hope that Google is humble enough to morph cross-platform mindshare in addition to growing killer channels and facilitating bleeding-edge infrastructures. This approach will surely recontextualize best-of-breed vortals, implement world-class research and innovate value-added technologies by embracing impactful infomediaries. Imagine how much longer we'd live if we leveraged sticky e-services, brand user-…

http://www.dack.com/web/bullshit.html ?

Re: Google announces Calico, a new company that will focus on health and well-being

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"So I’m tremendously excited about the innovative new way we’re funding this project" What does that refer to?

from the Time article[1], although they don't say it explicitly i get the impression that they're going to run it essentially like a charity - just dump money on it, and not expect any financial return. [1] http://business.time.com/2013/09/18/google-extend-human-life...

Peculiar it isn't just set up as a charity then.

Although perhaps Larry Page just wants to avoid the strange vagaries of non-profit governance, if I were to guess why.

Re: Google announces Calico, a new company that will focus on health and well-being

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You mean, that there might be a war between the 150 year olds and the 250 year olds? Sign me up! I don't even care for which side! The base state of the world that we live in is that everybody dies . Your hypotheticals about how horrible it might be to live in a world where people might not die have to be pretty horrible to compete with what is already true . (Mind you, this is not an unleapable bar, in my opinion, b…

Dying isn't horrible at all. It's a part of the lifecycle.

Of course it's horrible. Life is all there is. When you die, from your perspective, that is the end of all things. That's pretty horrible. Just because it's natural doesn't make it good.

Re: Google announces Calico, a new company that will focus on health and well-being

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Most of the world suffers from the health problem of never even reaching a ripe old age, and much of the rest from the problem of not being able to afford it, and increasingly so. This is not about making the world a better place. This about allowing the elite that can afford it to live forever.

Your logic can be dismissed as nonsense with a very easy thought experiment.

Imagine you have two groups of people: Group A and Group B. You are voting on a technology that can prevent 90% of deaths in Group A. Do you vote yes or no?

If you vote no, congratulations, you just condemned a large group of people to continue dying for the sake of egalitarianism.

(The reason this thought experiment is powerful is that it strips the scenario of value-judgments such as "elite" and "poor.")

Re: Google announces Calico, a new company that will focus on health and well-being

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You can't "make it for everyone" before you figure out how to make it in the first place.

Then fund a nonprofit research agency rather than a for-profit productizing company. Lots of countries have public healthcare systems who could administer life-extension treatments universally if they're not locked down and treated as proprietary, for-profit products!

It is pretty weird that it's not a non-profit, I'll give you that.

Re: Google announces Calico, a new company that will focus on health and well-being

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post #56

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You mean, that there might be a war between the 150 year olds and the 250 year olds? Sign me up! I don't even care for which side! The base state of the world that we live in is that everybody dies . Your hypotheticals about how horrible it might be to live in a world where people might not die have to be pretty horrible to compete with what is already true . (Mind you, this is not an unleapable bar, in my opinion, b…

Dying isn't horrible at all. It's a part of the lifecycle.

You're welcome to accept it - as long as you don't require me to die or hamper me from living as long as I like.

Re: Google announces Calico, a new company that will focus on health and well-being

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Like with anything else, the question isn't whether the rich will be able to afford it, the question is how much progress can we make in making it cheap, how quickly, to get it to how many people? It is a moral imperative to make sure that short-sighted class warfare does not cut off the nose to spite the face by destroying this work under the guise of egalitarianism, because we can not turn on a dime and immediately…

I have no problem with free market capitalism, if it's fair. But some think that companies like Genetech exploit the rules around patents and intellectual property at the expense of people's lives and receive preferential status. There's a difference between making your money back to cover the cost of research and development while making a profit, and plain old greed. A 20 year lifetime on a patent with a 3-7 year w…

> I have no problem with free market capitalism, if it's fair.

Free market capitalism isn't fair. All the dynamics and mechanics of capitalism have nothing to do with fairness.

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You either believe in capitalism, or you don't. Google believes in capitalism. They will offer goods and services to people who can afford them, and they will also work to make their products more accessible to those with limited resources. I personally believe Android will have enormous long-lasting positive impacts on the rest of the world. A $25 smartphone ... A $10 smartphone... A $5 smartphone... Giving access t…

> You either believe in capitalism, or you don't. I hope what you really meant was far, far better than what you made it to sound like.

I don't get it. Can you expand upon what you're worried I might have said, which you think is far, far worse?
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