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Re: iPhone 5c

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3 consecutive iPhones? 5, 5C/5S, what's the third?

4 & 4S had pretty much the same external design. So is the 5 & 5S.

Yes.... I still don't see what "3 consecutive phones" is referring to. Apple has generally kept the same physical design for two consecutive models before changing it, and that still holds.

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There's a feeling of déjà vu about this product approach. Take yesteryear's technology, repackage it in a safe design that follows trends established by others, sell for a price that is more than twice what the competitors charge because, hey, you're Apple and your customers will happily pay for your increasing margins. At least this time around, the MBAs didn't get to name it "iPhone Performa 551c".

You know, you are right. It is sad to see that Apple has no new ideas. I wonder if they will ever do something innovative again ? I also wonder if Steve Jobs would ever put a fingerprint scanner in an iPhone, make a "Gold" iPhone or keep the same hardware design for 3 consecutive iphones.

The Gold iPhone actually looks tastefully done. However, I can't imagine even the great Jonny Ive making it out of a meeting with a job after presenting this to Steve Jobs as the future of Apple.

http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/139...

With this product alone, Apple has lost it's claim to good design.

We can also tell, from this hardware release, that Ive's redesigned IOS 7 was intended from the start to match the hideousness of the iPhone 5C as closely as possible.

The White iPhone 5C is OK (It's ridiculously expensive though), but the rest of those colors, and especially the cases, are bafflingly ugly.

I'm sure Apple will be successful as always, but if the world were just, the 5C would be a bigger flop than Microsoft's Surface RT.

Re: iPhone 5c

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A $549 phone for developing markets. Seems like Apple is giving up on those markets.

Apple never tried for those markets, so nothing to give up. C64 vs. Lisa...

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Time will tell, but for the sake of argument: at c. $550 for the unsubsidised version this is a very high price point for the "iPhone for emerging markets" argument. I'm just very curious to see the market expansion with this "lower" tier model.

I never understood the expectation for the 5C to be introduced so cheaply. Apple's M.O. has been good/better/best, with increasingly older models making up the cheaper slots. Without a 5C, everyone would have expected 5S/5/4S. So with a 5C in the 'good' slot, that would imply 5S/5/5C -- but who would buy a 5 for $100 more, if it's barely distinguishable from the 5C? And they couldn't have stripped a 5 C down much fur…

I'm actually imagining that Apple would be rushing more to drop the 4S since they made breaking changes between the 4S and the 5 in terms of the screen size and the lightning connector.

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Fair enough, I imagine there are some edge cases where paying half as much for cell service doesn't justify the marginally lower internet speeds during the occasions when wifi isn't around. It's definitely working out fantastically in my case.

WiFi works great for me at home and work since I control those networks. But finding & connecting to public hotspots is often a pain and my effort's frequently rewarded with a slow, unstable connection (even for paid ones). In my area, LTE isn't marginally faster, it's way faster than 3G. For me, it's absolutely worth the extra money. I really don't think having fast, hassle-free internet access on the go is an edge…

For the most part, when I'm out, I'm getting around 6Mbps. The difference between 6Mbps and my friend's (on LTE) 14Mbps isn't exactly staggering when you're reading HN or downloading a photo here and there, and even streaming audio or watching youtube. Mobile sites are already very stripped-down in terms of data usage. If I were, on a daily basis, uploading 100MB videos or whatnot it might make a difference, but for my purposes HSPA+ is plenty.

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This is nothing new, as the 5 also takes a nano SIM.

Thanks for the info, I am obviously far behind ...

Apple's been continually pushing this issue. The original iPhone had a mini SIM, which is the one we generally think of as the standard size. The iPhone 4 moved to a micro SIM, which is the next smaller one depicted in your picture, and the 4S shared that. The 5 then went for the nano SIM. Presumably they're short enough on internal space that shrinking the SIM card actually makes some noticeable difference to them. The downside is that us users get to play games with getting (or cutting to size!) the right kind of SIM card for our particular model of phone.

I recall talk of purely internal, reprogrammable "SIM cards", so maybe that's the next step for Apple.

Re: iPhone 5c

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Nokia tweeted this: https://twitter.com/nokia_uk/status/377483408043036672

Nokia's bragging point is that Apple caught up to them on...color? Hey, how's the processing power on those industry-leading colorful devices? and the biometric security?

Note that biometrics are identifiers, they cannot be used for authentication (not securely anyway).

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Apple breaking the scroll bar themselve? Could the site instead gives a real scroll bar experience on desktop and give this "tablet-style" scrolling experience to tablets/phones only?

Not only do they take over the scrolling and usual keyboard-based navigation, they messed up Shift+Space and it works like Space.

Re: iPhone 5c

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You know, you are right. It is sad to see that Apple has no new ideas. I wonder if they will ever do something innovative again ? I also wonder if Steve Jobs would ever put a fingerprint scanner in an iPhone, make a "Gold" iPhone or keep the same hardware design for 3 consecutive iphones.

The Gold iPhone actually looks tastefully done. However, I can't imagine even the great Jonny Ive making it out of a meeting with a job after presenting this to Steve Jobs as the future of Apple. http://d35lb3dl296zwu.cloudfront.net/uploads/photo/image/139... With this product alone, Apple has lost it's claim to good design. We can also tell, from this hardware release, that Ive's redesigned IOS 7 was intended from t…

To me seems that the Gold iPhone is good for Paris Hilton...

Re: iPhone 5c

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if people get their first smartphone I think he means from a feature-phone plan to a smartphone plan.

That would explain the numbers, but I don't see the connection to the 5C's pricing, then.

if people get their first smartphone because it is $100 instead of $200

I.e. people are more likely to get an iPhone 5C because it's cheaper and thus "only" $99 more than the free phone they'd get otherwise. But this is not specific to the 5C, since the same scenario was in place as soon as Apple started offering two kinds of iPhones at the same time.

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