> You BLEW UP all my monthly bandwidth.
This is why static content should be served on GitHub, or a similar zero-cost and unlimited-bandwidth host.
Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer
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Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer
#142Nice article. Personally, I am a big fan of Tamsyn. When I installed Debian earlier today, it was the first thing I downloaded after Xorg.
Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer
#143> a font for programmers, by a programmer > Every glyph was carefully planned and calculated, according to defined principles and rules. For this reason, Hermit is coherent and regular. I hate to say this, but a font by a programmer makes as much sense as a database library by a font designer. Good font design is not about calculations or following principled rules; it's about what looks good to the eye, and it takes…
My font of choice, Inconsolata, was designed by a programmer. The entire Metafont collection, was designed by a programmer. The OP font, was designed by a programmer. I come to the conclusion that fonts designed by programmers make more sense than database libraries by font designers, unless Hermann Zapf wrote a framework and I've never seen it.
Then you should check out the work[1] done by the brothers Erik[2] and Petr[3] van Blokland, e.g. Guess who wrote the draft for the W3C specs of the .woff @font-face format? [4] A type designer.
[1] http://www.robofont.com/ [2] http://letterror.com/ [3] http://www.petr.com/ [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Open_Font_Format
Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer
#144> a font for programmers, by a programmer > Every glyph was carefully planned and calculated, according to defined principles and rules. For this reason, Hermit is coherent and regular. I hate to say this, but a font by a programmer makes as much sense as a database library by a font designer. Good font design is not about calculations or following principled rules; it's about what looks good to the eye, and it takes…
"a bridge for pedestrians, by a pedestrian". While I applaud his effort, this is why wonderful movies aren't musically scored by the director or writer - they may know what they want, but that doesn't give them the ability to create it. Like medicine "created by a school teacher".
"The problem about folk music Is that it is written by the people"
Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer
#145> a font for programmers, by a programmer > Every glyph was carefully planned and calculated, according to defined principles and rules. For this reason, Hermit is coherent and regular. I hate to say this, but a font by a programmer makes as much sense as a database library by a font designer. Good font design is not about calculations or following principled rules; it's about what looks good to the eye, and it takes…
If the end result is good, then it will be good, no matter what methodology is used. While I can agree with your conclusion, your argument is just another authority argument, and I hate those.
Having said that, I will not use this particular font, because I like others more, not because of the degree his creator has got.
Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer
#146> a font for programmers, by a programmer > Every glyph was carefully planned and calculated, according to defined principles and rules. For this reason, Hermit is coherent and regular. I hate to say this, but a font by a programmer makes as much sense as a database library by a font designer. Good font design is not about calculations or following principled rules; it's about what looks good to the eye, and it takes…
i feel like this is a good argument if you could show some evidence that another font designer put any thought beyond mere aesthetics in thaer decision making. What i would like to see from someone like you, that criticises the work on display, in this instance, would be: -what font do you currently use? -what evidence do you have that it was 'designed by a font designer'? -what evidence do you have that such and suc…
Fonts often take months, if not years to design.
There are blogs dedicated to the process that help you learn about the process and decisions being made.
For example:
http://ilovetypography.com/2009/12/15/font-design-vesper-typ...
http://ilovetypography.com/2010/10/10/the-making-of-acorde-2...
Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer
#147I'm sorry. I don't like it.
Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer
#148> a font for programmers, by a programmer > Every glyph was carefully planned and calculated, according to defined principles and rules. For this reason, Hermit is coherent and regular. I hate to say this, but a font by a programmer makes as much sense as a database library by a font designer. Good font design is not about calculations or following principled rules; it's about what looks good to the eye, and it takes…
Except PROGRAMMERS don't generally deal in anything remotely resembling proper grammar that real Font Designers train for. Real fonts are designed to minimize punctuation especially repeated punctuation and programming languages all use special characters nearly as much as alphanumerics. It doesn't look terrible, is have to try it out on a computer to see if its useful.
>Except PROGRAMMERS don't generally deal in anything remotely resembling proper grammar that real Font Designers train for.
This is wrong, and misleading.
Monospaced fonts are usually designed with specific usage in mind. Come one, font designers don't live in a cave. They are usually briefed for how this font is intended to be used.
See, for example, a Consolas case study:
http://www.lucasfonts.com/case-studies/calibri-consolas/
>The first typeface Luc(as) was invited to work on was Consolas, a monospaced font (a face in which all glyphs have equal width).
>Intended for use in programming environments and other circumstances where a monospaced font is required, Consolas has proportions that are closer to normal text, and is therefore more reader-friendly than many other monospaced fonts. OpenType features include hanging figures or lining figures; slashed, dotted and normal zeroes; and alternative shapes for a number of lowercase letters, notably the most problematic character in any monospaced font, the ‘i’. The look of the text can be tuned to personal taste by varying the number of bars and waves in these letters.
>De Groot teamed up with a programmer to test the use of Consolas as a font for coding. “Having a programmer involved,” says Luc(as) with a smile, “I could preview hardcore use on the light-weight notebook chosen to represent his species’ preferred tool.” As the default monospaced font in Windows Vista as well as the Office Suite, Consolas became the de facto successor of the ubiquitous Courier.
(emphasis mine)
Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer
#149> a font for programmers, by a programmer > Every glyph was carefully planned and calculated, according to defined principles and rules. For this reason, Hermit is coherent and regular. I hate to say this, but a font by a programmer makes as much sense as a database library by a font designer. Good font design is not about calculations or following principled rules; it's about what looks good to the eye, and it takes…
I would have to actually try it out before commenting on the readability, but I do find what I see on the one screenshot provided kinda sexy. Tastes differ! Maybe it's not the ultimate monospace font to end all monospace fonts, but personally I've seen fonts I liked much less coming from "actual designers".
Re: Hermit: a font for programmers, by a programmer
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the font is decent, but I won't use it in its current iteration for the following reasons: 1. The lowercase 'm' is muddled and looks bad without anti-aliasing, downright horrible with anti-aliasing. 2. The lowercase 'k' is "too unique" and distracting (personal taste) 3. The lowercase 'e' is too squished and doesn't read well at small point sizes. Overall, this font is not horrible. But with every "programmer…
Agree with your assessment. I searched high and low for a font that serves as a programming font for quite a while. For the longest time I loved Inconsolata and some of it's variations. After a while I got tired of it though. It seemed... sloppy, even though I loved it at first. I think what it lacked, for me at least, was consistency between glyphs. Some where straight and angular, while others curved and it just di…
I've actually started using Deja Vu Sans Mono for a programming font. There are definitely still some annoyances but it does seem to do better than most I've come across.