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Post by antitrust »

Karunamon wrote: post #132
antitrust wrote: post #113

Part of the role of Reddit, HN and other social media is to motivate you, the collected developers out there, to write your own version and fix all the problems you see in the system (software + admins + "culture") as it is now. That includes me. Maybe after the wedding, kid's baseball game, co-worker's going away party, and stuff this weekend.

Problem is, fixing the software won't fix how it's misused. I come here both for the community and the network. Added features would be nice, but my rather small list of gripes is primarily with the utterly opaque, broken, and sometimes downright moronic way it's run sometimes. It's not broken enough to drive most people away, and that's its prime benefit. But what I'd give for the same site, moderated differently...

That's an insightful analysis.

For me, the question is knowing what exactly I'd do differently. On a lot of crucial points, I don't know and don't know how to find out (except experimentation).

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Post by shawabawa3 »

dhiraj86 wrote: post #68
Jgrubb wrote: post #56

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Karma thresholds for doing this and that. Not sure where "upvote" is, but "downvote" was recently at 500.

Thanks, anyone sure of what the upvote threshold is?

I'm fairly sure it's 1. Maybe ~25 or something. It's not that obvious but the upvote button is a little gray triangle to the left of a comment/post

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Post by marbletiles »

They're still at it! https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6217742 just had its title changed, as has https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6217968 (which lost the interesting $12m hook to boot).

This is doubly frustrating: it's a stupid policy, and when the changes are this significant it makes me re-read links I've already read. Argh.

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Post by taway2012 »

DanBC wrote: post #57
noarchy wrote: post #49

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People create threads to discuss hellbans (or shadowbans, or whatever others might prefer) from time to time, too. Hellbanning is a practice that I find almost embarrassing. Browse this site with "show dead" enabled, and you'll find perfectly good comments showing up as dead. You'll also see legit problem posters showing why they should simply be banned, rather than allowed to post dead comments all day.

I like hellbanning. A few people are unfairly caught out by it, but they are usually told about it. And the fact you see problem posters continuing to post on their banned accounts shows it works well enough to prevent those people just changing IP and creating new accounts.

> but they are usually told about it.

Ummm, no. If so, why would they persist in posting using their hellbanned accounts.

In any case, there are numerous threads where people have said that they had no idea they were hellbanned.

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Post by [deleted] »

Tyrannosaurs wrote: post #120
hnha wrote: post #88

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ah, the feeling of living in a false democracy...

What on earth ever gave you the impression that HN was any sort of a democracy? Like most internet discussion sites it's rather openly a benevolent dictatorship isn't it?

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Post by DanBC »

taway2012 wrote: post #144
DanBC wrote: post #57

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I like hellbanning. A few people are unfairly caught out by it, but they are usually told about it. And the fact you see problem posters continuing to post on their banned accounts shows it works well enough to prevent those people just changing IP and creating new accounts.

> but they are usually told about it. Ummm, no. If so, why would they persist in posting using their hellbanned accounts. In any case, there are numerous threads where people have said that they had no idea they were hellbanned.

i) You don't tell the trolls who are hellbanned, but more importantly

ii) You can't tell people if they have no contact information in their profile. You can leave a post in the thread and hope the hellbanned poster sees it.

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Post by kmfrk »

teawithcarl wrote: post #136
jerf wrote: post #84

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Some sites are auto-banned. I wouldn't be surprised techeye.net is among them, based on a quick look at the home page. While this has the occasional false positive, there are reasons for most of them.

Strange that DemocracyNow.org is auto-banned. Just yesterday, they had a video interview with Ladar Levison, the CEO of Lavabit. Excellent interviewed, yet banned at HN.

Less "extreme" examples than an overtly political site are BuzzFeed and the Gawker network that - although they may suck at times - have some good contributions every now and then.

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Post by stevewillows »

This is where a twitter-length Slashdot style summary would come in handy. But for the bulk of the links posted, the titles are accurate. Lately we've seen far more 'no comment' links on the front page.

Notifications in general would be great, but it takes away the simplicity that makes this site and community so great.

Beyond title changes and such, I think what the real request is for better curating.

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