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Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

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Post by dkhenry »

pyre wrote: post #135
dkhenry wrote: post #120

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if your intent is to get around NSA snooping this doesn't do that. All you have really done is made sure that your communications are target for closer scrutiny. Remember I don't care _what_ you say I care _who_ your saying it to. Once I know who is talking to who and which person might be a good source of information there are much easier ways to get that information then try…

You lack imagination. :P If the NSA is collecting everything, then it's possible to go back in time once you become a person of interest. This doesn't necessarily help you if you are actively planning something that the government is interested in, but if you become a political opponent to the NSA, they could look into your past for skeletons to blackmail you with. Who you are talking to may not give them enough info…

I don't think they need the content if They can identify the participants it works even better.

""" I see in 2013 you had many long encrypted conversations with someone we now know to be a pedophile, what were you talking about exactly """

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

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Post by thaweatherman »

Another app that is the same as good existing solutions and is an outgrowth of spying revelations. Easy secure messaging, calling, etc apps already exist and are freely available. Once Whisper Systems apps are out for iOS at the end of the summer the bases will be covered.

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

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Post by salad »

latitude wrote: post #128
Daiz wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As far as we know, said project only exists in latitude's mind, and the only public information about it is that he may or may not still have plans for a "secure chat" program. I'd be hard-pressed to call that an "existing project", since for all practical purposes, it isn't.

You are asserting a made-up argument. Having an active public project behind a logo is not a necessary condition for not re-purposing the logo for another project. This particular concept just happens to be taken. Every good logo is trivial in retrospect, it's finding a strong concept that's a bitch. I looked at /gd/ thread and virtually all of it revolves around shaping a keyhole this way or that way. Then suddenly…

There is no existing project. Go back to Apple.

Edit:

From your Dribbble link - http://imgur.com/CYyDy48

I really think it's clear that you're just upset some other people had the same idea, but did it better.

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

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Post by pyrocat »

Daiz wrote: post #125
meritt wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It'd be nice if HN allowed us to collapse entire conversations. Maybe with a TL;DR summary. [+] [137 messages] "Bunch of people arguing about logo copyright & design for an open-source project."

>It'd be nice if HN allowed us to collapse entire conversations. There's a whole bunch of extensions/plugins/userscripts for HN out there, including ones that implement thread hiding. I personally use Hacker News Enhancement Suite for Chrome.

Hacker News Enhancement Suite Hacker News Enhancement Suite Hacker News Enhancement Suite ?

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

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Post by hepek »

syjer wrote: post #127
dpenning wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure if you understood what MITM(man in the middle attacks) actually means. I will give you a high level example of what he is talking about. your software displays a public key to perform encryption. what 'the NSA' can do is put a proxy (or use your isp) in between you and the person you are sending data to. Then they can pose as the person you are sending data to by hosting their own public key to both you…

If I understood their code/doc, the public keys must be exchanged out of band. So how could the proxy pass for another person?

I wonder if the pubkeys could be maintained in a system such as namecoin? [never used namecoin, but it sounds right]

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

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Post by pyrocat »

latitude wrote: post #47

Oh, I see you helped yourselves to my Secure Chat logo - http://dribbble.com/shots/479881-Secure-Chat http://logopond.com/gallery/detail/165288 https://www.google.ca/search?q=secure+chat+logo - first page hit too Not cool at all, "cool guys around the world". -- (edit) Regardless of whether this was copied, over-inspired or independently conceived (but let's be realistic here), the generally accepted rule of the game…

Just came here to say thank you for Hamachi, many hours of multiplayer Worms Armageddon were had thanks to you.

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

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Post by pyre »

dkhenry wrote: post #141
pyre wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You lack imagination. :P If the NSA is collecting everything, then it's possible to go back in time once you become a person of interest. This doesn't necessarily help you if you are actively planning something that the government is interested in, but if you become a political opponent to the NSA, they could look into your past for skeletons to blackmail you with. Who you are talking to may not give them enough info…

I don't think they need the content if They can identify the participants it works even better. """ I see in 2013 you had many long encrypted conversations with someone we now know to be a pedophile, what were you talking about exactly """

On the other hand, if you're having an affair with someone that you have a good excuse to talk to all of the time (family friend, co-worker, etc), the content matters.

Also, that "OMG you were talking to a pedo!" threat doesn't mean much of the conversations were innocuous. To make that threat, they would need a good confidence that you couldn't (for whatever reason[1]) just turn over chat logs proving that nothing was amiss.

[1] E.g. The chat reveals something you want to keep hidden, even if it doesn't relate to the fact that the person is a paedophile, or maybe the logs just don't exist, etc.

Re: Tox: secure messaging for everyone

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Post by jaekwon »

spacelizard wrote: post #129
kostyakow wrote: post #21

Tox aims to be a secure replacement for Skype. There's several other similar projects, but they are usually hard to set up and use for an average user. Tox is FLOS software developed by community, and currently licensed under GPLv3. We are considering changing the license to something more permissive, so it would be possible to put it on the App & Win8 Stores. Currently, it is in really early stages of development. B…

I don't see the point of changing to a more permissive license just to get on the iOS and WP8 app stores. Those devices are all compromised to begin with.

Source?

I use a mac, and if it's compromised, I'd like to stop using it.

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