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Re: Show HN: Minified.js – a fully-featured, 4K alternative to jQuery and MooTools

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Unless you're being targeted as a potential customer or a member of the audience, your mobile performance is irrelevant. What is relevant is that the majority of the devices being used to access sites don't have the performance of mid-high end models.

Which commonly used phone models are that far behind the iPhone 3Gs?

The common phone is a sub-$100 Nokia or nothing at all?

Even in the US there's something like 10% of people with no cell phone at all, and 50% with "smartphones" which is a very broad spectrum ranging from crap to significant household purchases before considering "data plans" are optional and also range from crap to good.

Even non-phone connection quality can be terrible - I rarely find myself on public or hotel wifi with actually good connections. The difference between 200kb of JavaScript and 10kb can often be measured in seconds.

Re: Show HN: Minified.js – a fully-featured, 4K alternative to jQuery and MooTools

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which commonly used phone models are that far behind the iPhone 3Gs?

The common phone is a sub-$100 Nokia or nothing at all? Even in the US there's something like 10% of people with no cell phone at all, and 50% with "smartphones" which is a very broad spectrum ranging from crap to significant household purchases before considering "data plans" are optional and also range from crap to good. Even non-phone connection quality can be terrible - I rarely find myself on public or hotel wif…

I contest the assertion that we are talking about almost everyone everywhere at this point.

Re: Show HN: Minified.js – a fully-featured, 4K alternative to jQuery and MooTools

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Are people really referencing jquery from other servers in production environments?

See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_delivery_network . Use of these (to serve static content) reduces your server traffic/load and gives a faster response times to users in different geographical regions.

I definitely understand the benefit. I also understand the very serious drawbacks of not hosting content that you own. Compared to an initial load time that borders on completely negligible, I'd rather guarantee safety of user information and not having downtime coincide with the shared cdn.

Re: Show HN: Minified.js – a fully-featured, 4K alternative to jQuery and MooTools

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RyeJS is another alternative, though it focuses on speed, modularity and having an understandable source instead of size. Clocking at 6.2kb. http://ryejs.com/ (disclaimer: I'm one of the authors)

Focus on speed and modularity next to the clear code sounds interesting, but supporting IE 9+ only is kind of a bummer here, because it means "no" for XP users (I use XP64 on my desktop for instance) and there is still substantial number of them. (And I do curse Microsoft for making IE 9 Vista+ only browser, which is quite likely explainable by use of some shiny new undocumented API, that wasn't available in XP and b…

Undocumented?

Re: Show HN: Minified.js – a fully-featured, 4K alternative to jQuery and MooTools

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With all due respect: Not everyone else's phones are.

I don't believe you actually read the context of my comment.

I actually believe that I did. I understood the point you were making, and I'm pointing out that while your devices don't have that constraint, others may, depending on your target audience.

:)

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