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Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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How so? I think they're just implying that even once police drones are in use it won't necessarily deter suspects from driving erratically.

You may even need to drive faster...

Implying you can spot the drone. Best police drone would simply tag the vehicle and see where it is moving around, then apprehend the fugitive one he settles for a longer period (during the night usually).

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According to the article they killed a police officer and ran, if you don't pursue them how are you going to catch them? Aftersll, they did murder someone, and apparently they had warrants, so it seems reasonable to assume we dont want them out running around anymore as they sre likely to commit more fiolent crimes. Furthermore, if have a policy to not pursue, then every criminal is always going to run. The fault is…

You know, police in EU normally don't chase criminals at high speed and they normally found them easily after the fact (especially if they wound/killed a cop). High speed chases are extremely rare, there is no rational need for them (and the consequent danger for passers by).

EU is not a country. The police in Finland will almost always chase 'criminals' until they stop. The 'criminals' are mostly people who are drunk drivers or speeding, tough.

Ironically, the reason there's very few chases is that punishments are not severe for crimes. If you are certain that you'll get federal prison in USA for almost any crime, it makes sense to risk it and try to get away.

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How can we even judge? The police back off often when they sense that a chase is too dangerous, they make a judgement call. Sometimes they don't have perfect information however, and shit just happens. It is not like the movies. I'm sure the officers involved are second guessing their behavior now, its not like people die every day like this. But really, its a tough job, we aren't really in a position to judge.

Police in the US are notorious for causing chases in dangerously crowded areas and endangering innocents. So much so they had to pass laws to make it illegal for police to do chases in many cities/situations to stop them. http://www.pursuitsafety.org/ http://kristieslaw.org/ http://abcnews.go.com/US/police-chases-california-injured-10... More bystanders are injured or killed during high-speed police chases than by st…

It's worth noting that the vast majority of these chases happen in Southern California. It's a relatively localized phenomenon.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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After watching police chases on TV my whole life, I really want to know: What's the logical strategy in a police chase? Just keep driving after each other? It risks the lives of hundreds living and walking in the path of the chase all for the sake of punishing 1 or 2 individuals. It just doesn't seem to add up to me. What a shame we lost someone so brilliant for nothing.

In China, police are not allowed to chase cars.

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In New Zealand the police adopted a (highly-publicised) policy of not continuing to chase people who drive away at high speed due to the danger it poses to the public, when it is trivial to just go round to their house the next day and arrest them. The consequences of this have been as follows: 1) Now everybody runs when stopped by Police. OK, not everybody , but the rate has probably tripled. 2) After the police giv…

I don't know what the official stance here in germany is, but I talked to a member of the Autobahnpolizei (Highway Patrol) and he told me that while they have high powered cars that could follow most cars at high speed they will "give up" when hey feel they pose a danger to other drivers and concentrate on blocking exits etc. . But I have to say I have not seen a police chase in germany my whole life.

I see it all the time on Cobra 11, an autobahnpolizei documentary series.

Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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In New Zealand the police adopted a (highly-publicised) policy of not continuing to chase people who drive away at high speed due to the danger it poses to the public, when it is trivial to just go round to their house the next day and arrest them. The consequences of this have been as follows: 1) Now everybody runs when stopped by Police. OK, not everybody , but the rate has probably tripled. 2) After the police giv…

I don't know what the official stance here in germany is, but I talked to a member of the Autobahnpolizei (Highway Patrol) and he told me that while they have high powered cars that could follow most cars at high speed they will "give up" when hey feel they pose a danger to other drivers and concentrate on blocking exits etc. . But I have to say I have not seen a police chase in germany my whole life.

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Re: Oculus Rift co-founder killed by gang trying to escape police

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I don't know what the official stance here in germany is, but I talked to a member of the Autobahnpolizei (Highway Patrol) and he told me that while they have high powered cars that could follow most cars at high speed they will "give up" when hey feel they pose a danger to other drivers and concentrate on blocking exits etc. . But I have to say I have not seen a police chase in germany my whole life.

I see it all the time on Cobra 11, an autobahnpolizei documentary series.

@Keyframe: Are you sure Cobra 11 is a documentary series? I am from Germany as well and what can be seen in Cobra 11 is nothing that happens on German Autobahns.

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I see it all the time on Cobra 11, an autobahnpolizei documentary series.

@Keyframe: Are you sure Cobra 11 is a documentary series? I am from Germany as well and what can be seen in Cobra 11 is nothing that happens on German Autobahns.

It was my poor attempt to make a joke about it - it's actually quite bad tv show imo.

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> After the police give up the chase, a member of the public is almost invariably killed at an intersection within 30s, since the offender is still driving at high speed but there are no longer any lights and sirens to warn the public. i call BS, citation?

My perception was that the comment was correct however with a quick skim I cant produce anything more than anecdata. The police do seem to be consistently breaking their rules which dictate that the chase ends when it gets dangerous. However crashes do seem to be happen after the chase has ended rather too regularly - about 30 seconds later. Citation. Here is an editorial on the poor stats we have. An interesting asi…

Is the time of the termination of a chase based on a record made by the pursuing officer? Is it also the case that it looks bad for the pursuing officer if a pursuit ends in an accident?
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