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Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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After seeing the presentations for the WiiU, the Playstation 4 and the Xbox One I think we really another gaming company. Apple or perhaps even a startup.

Well, there's Valve who are supposedly developing their 'Steambox'. Hopefully they'll reveal more about that soon given the Sony and MS announcements.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Neither Sony or Microsoft have told me why I need to buy one of their next-gen consoles. I own a PS3, Xbox 360 and a gaming PC. The 360 came first and combined with Xbox Live it became my default gaming device. Probably 60% of my games are for my Xbox 360. After a few years with my 360 I bought a PS3 because there were some exclusive games I wanted to play. In 2010 Battlefield 3 came out and I built a gaming PC for i…

I've built a gaming PC before. What I underestimated was how nice it was to have my console in my living room. Having to get up and go into another room to play games meant that games never got played. And then the PC started getting flaky and then it was old and new games didn't look good any more. This happened very quickly.

My consoles always work (no red ring on my 306 yet, knock on wood) and the new games always play great. I'm almost definitely getting one of the Microsoft or Sony next-gen consoles. I would definitely consider a steambox as well, as I love the idea of a living room game PC... Though I'm not sure how I'm supposed to manage the wireless keyboard and mouse while sitting on my couch.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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post #132

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The main point was more about how somebody who doesn't watch TV will always let you know that they don't. Not really the reasons why. I think in that case, the satire is still relevant. Plenty of people on reddit/HN/the Internet almost bragging about how they don't use a traditional TV setup. Basically like the old joke "How can you tell if someone is an atheist? Don't worry, he'll tell you."

Maybe you hear that so often because it's a trend, so the idea of it being the focus of your media center box for the next decade might be a little antiquated.

Or it's a vocal minority of people who don't miss opportunities to talk about it. I don't care either way, especially since the article was posted as a little joke.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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The event's games presentations were oriented to what is usually called the "Bro gamer" demographic (e.g. Madden/FIFA/CoD) ... It focused on TV, for which many of the core gamers don't care. Contrast this to the PS4 announcement, which had many developers and a lot of talk about how the platform is going to be more "open" for the small guys, and it felt really passionate about the "for-gamers" features. As a gamer, I…

"what is usually called the 'bro gamer' demographic"? Just because I like Madden, I'm a "bro gamer" now? Get over yourself.

Well, if you only like Madden, you probably are. It's like if you collected art, but only art with football players in it.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

#145

Neither Sony or Microsoft have told me why I need to buy one of their next-gen consoles. I own a PS3, Xbox 360 and a gaming PC. The 360 came first and combined with Xbox Live it became my default gaming device. Probably 60% of my games are for my Xbox 360. After a few years with my 360 I bought a PS3 because there were some exclusive games I wanted to play. In 2010 Battlefield 3 came out and I built a gaming PC for i…

I've built a gaming PC before. What I underestimated was how nice it was to have my console in my living room. Having to get up and go into another room to play games meant that games never got played. And then the PC started getting flaky and then it was old and new games didn't look good any more. This happened very quickly. My consoles always work (no red ring on my 306 yet, knock on wood) and the new games always…

Just plug an xbox gamepad into the PC, most newer games will let you use it instead of keyboard/mouse (assuming it's a game that actually makes sense to play on a gamepad).

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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Xbox one is more a media center than a vg console itself. Sadly we're witnessing the second vg crash. No more hardcore gamers, no more preowned games... It seems that if we want to have a REAL GAMING EXPERIENCE, (this includes fun, creativity, good stories, simple controls) we will need to go back to the past. Fortunately, 'retrogaming scene' will gather more adepts. =)

Eh, there are just more gamers now than there were before so there's a lot of money to be made by targeting the huge mainstream audience.

If you want more interesting games there's no shortage of stuff from indie developers or even AAA devs who are not EA and co. Including almost ridiculous numbers of "new retro" games. That market hasn't shrunk (if anything it's larger) it's just now a smaller proportional piece of an overall larger pie.

Plus if you wait for Steam sales you can get games so cheap (often 50%+ off) that you don't really need preowned games.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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agreed. people make it sound like they removed some essential features, just because they didn't emphasize them enough (or because they emphasized others more). from what i've seen this appears to match the ps4 in every way - even down to the architecture. the only difference is they glossed-over all that and decided to focus on the ways its differentiated..

They removed the ability to buy, sell, and lend games. You have to pay an undisclosed fee to "install" a game that has already been installed, which is mandatory.

the rumor you're basing that on doesn't appear to be entirely accurate [1]. either way, i don't think its fair to draw judgment one way or another until they actually explain how that will be handled..

also, this issue is nothing new and is certainty not unique to microsoft or the xbox. i think its fairly well understood that there's going to be a change in this area as the way content is distributed continues to evolve..

whatever the actual implementation is, i'm pretty sure it wont be as bad as you're implying (... removed the ability to buy, sell, and lend games) and will probably be standard across the industry - and structured in a manner as not to totally decimate the second-hand market..

[1] http://www.polygon.com/2013/5/21/4348916/xbox-used-games

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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You're still going have a layer of terrible user interface where you're picking through all the kitchen-junk-drawer full of items that Microsoft has packed into this device. It won't be labeled "Video 1, Aux 1", true, but you'll still have to pick through every time you want to use the system. Probably end up being more of an interface problem, actually. Power on, wait, skip special offers from Microsoft, no I don't…

Oh come on, no console - including the 360 - has ever been like that. There has never been an anti-virus, much less one that prompts you at startup. Console software updates are few and far between (twice a year on MS's schedule), not to mention it looks like they're doing more and more in the background. Nor has Microsoft or Sony ever held up anything so you can watch a special offer. This is just FUD. Go watch the…

I can't wait till families start having loud arguments about what show they want to watch, each trying to be louder than the other, so it picks up their voice. This was designed for families.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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"what is usually called the 'bro gamer' demographic"? Just because I like Madden, I'm a "bro gamer" now? Get over yourself.

'bro gamer' is just a term used by some gamers to feel superior to the CoD demographic (which is everybody ). It seems to me to be a kind of signaling used to mark themselves out as 'serious' gamers who think about 'serious' issues while they blow stuff up and shoot zombies.

It's not everybody. CoD has a very large demographic and it encompasses a significant chunk of the console and hardcore PC gaming market, and they're better games than people give credit for, but they're far from universal appeal.

Re: Xbox One: Microsoft's All-In-One Home Entertainment System

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post #39

As someone actually interested in playing games (and I know that may make me a minority here), this was the best commercial there will likely ever be for the Sony PlayStation 4.

Yes, before I saw your comment, I was going to post something similar. I am also one of those weirdos who just wants a really powerful and reliable gaming console. No muss, no fuss, no "social", no voice-activated doo-dads, just really good games and not much else.

You know that Sony have integrated a "share" button right on the controller?
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