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Re: Portal Released For Steam On Linux

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Post by dmoy »

Aissen wrote: post #90
dmoy wrote: post #64

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No, I've never had to download some weird proprietary driver for windows, keyboard or mouse. Doesn't work to me on vanillia ubuntu, dug around for a few hours trying to find a solution before just giving up and uninstalling. The lack of games is my main issue - if that was solved, I may go buy a keyboard that works on linux :p

Can you say which mouse and which keyboard you use and at least point to forum/bugs where people have complained about the problems ? Otherwise it might look like FUD to any outsider that could help.

g400 (which is disappointing because my mx518 had no troubles on linux)

noppoo choc mini (only the new ones, the old ones work fine on linux). The keyboard at least is a solvable problem, and the weirdness is in large part due to the weird firmware which sort of pretends to be two keyboards. I found a fix for OSX, but was unable to figure out how to get it work in linux in under an hour. So, I just got an older keyboard for work where I have to use linux, and went back to using only windows at home.

I'd love to be in a situation where people who made peripherals made them work on linux in addition to windows, but that's not the way things work atm :(

Re: Portal Released For Steam On Linux

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Post by csense »

Havoc wrote: post #111
Skoofoo wrote: post #36

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I would sympathize with Valve if they didn't completely ignore Linux before acting like the Linux community's best friend when it became apparent that they had nowhere else to turn to [1]. Like many, I'm a fan of their games and their flat management, but they have a history of being as short-sighted and callous as EA and I wish more people would see that [2]. I have a lot more respect for the people behind Humble Bu…

>I would sympathize with Valve if they didn't completely ignore Linux Can you blame them? I'm surprised they can make the numbers work even now, let alone 5 years ago. The probably still don't...its probably just a long range bet. >Plus they don't force DRM middleware on you. DRM is the future (not that I like it). The trick is simply to make it DRM like Steam where people barely realize its DRM and rather than EA's…

> DRM is the future

Why?

It seems entirely reasonable to me to have an equilibrium where there's some nonzero market niche of people who oppose DRM for practical and/or ideological reasons, and some nonzero number of developers that realize they can get access to that market by forgoing DRM on their products.

Case in point: Just yesterday I saw Torchlight 2 was on sale on Gamersgate. I was totally ready to buy it on the spot. Then I saw that it was Steam-only. And I didn't buy it for that reason, and that reason alone.

Those dollars from my entertainment budget are now ready to be captured by non-DRM products. If there are enough people like me, we can push back DRM, or at least keep it out of some corner of the market.

If you don't like DRM, vote with your wallet.

Re: Portal Released For Steam On Linux

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Post by csense »

shmerl wrote: post #38
fragsworth wrote: post #32

Steam is now the de-facto "app store" of the PC as far as games go, which was no small feat. It took them more than 10 years to get to this point and it's now in jeopardy. With Google and Apple already controlling the mobile app stores, various console manufacturers controlling their own ecosystems, and Microsoft attempting to abandon their "open" Windows (so they can run their own app store) - the industry is shifti…

> Steam is now the de-facto "app store" of the PC as far as games go I hope GOG will become comparable numbers wise, since it's the only big DRM free alternative as of now. Though they lack Linux releases yet. (Keep voting here: http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/add_linux_versions_of_games ).

What about Gamersgate, Desura, or plain old self-publishing?

Re: Portal Released For Steam On Linux

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Post by shmerl »

csense wrote: post #143
shmerl wrote: post #38

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> Steam is now the de-facto "app store" of the PC as far as games go I hope GOG will become comparable numbers wise, since it's the only big DRM free alternative as of now. Though they lack Linux releases yet. (Keep voting here: http://www.gog.com/wishlist/site/add_linux_versions_of_games ).

What about Gamersgate, Desura, or plain old self-publishing?

These are smaller, and didn't reach the scope of GOG.

Re: Portal Released For Steam On Linux

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Post by Nursie »

momokatte wrote: post #93
Nursie wrote: post #30

I played portal via steam on Linux years ago! (OK so that was wine, but it worked pretty well :)

I did too! In a little window in the middle of my screen. Sometimes the game would freeze for a second or two to load a sound effect. Tonight I played the first half of the linux beta at 1920X1080 resolution and it just made me giddy. I'd been waiting a long time for this day.

Really?

I had it running fullscreen and pretty perfectly. Fullscreen was 1280x800, mind. But it worked fine. L4D and L4D2 I've had working too.

Re: Portal Released For Steam On Linux

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Post by csense »

shmerl wrote: post #144
csense wrote: post #143

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What about Gamersgate, Desura, or plain old self-publishing?

These are smaller, and didn't reach the scope of GOG.

I'll grant that Desura is definitely a small player.

I've thought of GG as being a minor player but legitimately mainstream and big enough to worry, if not threaten, Steam.

OTOH I've always thought of GOG as owning a niche (legacy titles) that nobody else is much interested in, its very name sort of denotes how it's restricted.

Re: Portal Released For Steam On Linux

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Post by shmerl »

csense wrote: post #146
shmerl wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are smaller, and didn't reach the scope of GOG.

I'll grant that Desura is definitely a small player. I've thought of GG as being a minor player but legitimately mainstream and big enough to worry, if not threaten, Steam. OTOH I've always thought of GOG as owning a niche (legacy titles) that nobody else is much interested in, its very name sort of denotes how it's restricted.

I've always thought of GOG as owning a niche (legacy titles) that nobody else is much interested in

They started that way to gain the traction, but they definitely don't plan to stay that way - they add new titles and aren't focusing on old games exclusively anymore. I view them as a solid competitor to Steam which will threaten them even more in the future, since they have a resolute DRM free stance. Linux additions would boost GOG position a lot IMHO. They still work on adding old titles though, since that's their original specialty and that's a good thing.

I'm not sure about Gamersgate - never used them. Are they DRM free? If not, they aren't really offering anything better than Steam does, and won't compete with GOG here.

Re: Portal Released For Steam On Linux

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Post by csense »

shmerl wrote: post #147
csense wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll grant that Desura is definitely a small player. I've thought of GG as being a minor player but legitimately mainstream and big enough to worry, if not threaten, Steam. OTOH I've always thought of GOG as owning a niche (legacy titles) that nobody else is much interested in, its very name sort of denotes how it's restricted.

I've always thought of GOG as owning a niche (legacy titles) that nobody else is much interested in They started that way to gain the traction, but they definitely don't plan to stay that way - they add new titles and aren't focusing on old games exclusively anymore. I view them as a solid competitor to Steam which will threaten them even more in the future, since they have a resolute DRM free stance. Linux additions…

They sell both DRM-enabled and DRM-free games. The DRM-free games are tagged as such, and when browsing the catalog, you can filter on this trait.

Re: Portal Released For Steam On Linux

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Post by shmerl »

csense wrote: post #148
shmerl wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always thought of GOG as owning a niche (legacy titles) that nobody else is much interested in They started that way to gain the traction, but they definitely don't plan to stay that way - they add new titles and aren't focusing on old games exclusively anymore. I view them as a solid competitor to Steam which will threaten them even more in the future, since they have a resolute DRM free stance. Linux additions…

They sell both DRM-enabled and DRM-free games. The DRM-free games are tagged as such, and when browsing the catalog, you can filter on this trait.

That's surely better than Steam already, which doesn't help filtering DRM free titles. Though Steam in general imposes its client DRM, even if the game itself doesn't use some heavier forms (like on-line type).

Re: Portal Released For Steam On Linux

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Post by kibibu »

grecy wrote: post #118
kibibu wrote: post #76

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OSX still doesn't support OpenGL 3.3 or 4.0, both of which are >3 years old. Perhaps with a driver update from the vendor... oh wait, no.

I was talking about not having to worry about device drivers and things "just working", you're talking about being on the latest and greatest version. Those are two different discussions. Obviously when Apple controls the hardware and software there are going to be some trade-offs, one of which, as you pointed out, is a lack of frequent updates. I, personally, am just fine with that.

I know this is a few days old now, but by (lucky?) coincidence, I was recommended to install this on my Mac to fix Pixelmator today: http://www.nvidia.com/object/macosx-cuda-5.0.45-driver.html
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