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Re: The Lie Hollywood Loves to Tell

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Post by hnriot » Sat, Mar 30, 2013, 4:06 AM UTC

aaronbrethorst wrote: post #38

gcb0 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

well, the stigma is that it outright tells me you don't have friends. i never had to go out alone to find a significant other. Sure a few days i had to stay home because none of my friends wanted to go out. but that's life. ... you will probably not meet, and be happy with, someone you meet in a dive bar, or online dating. it's just common sense, or you may call it stigma.

I picked my girlfriend[1] of four years up at a bar. After a few dates, she broke it off with a guy she'd been dating casually who she met through Match.com. [1] Ivy-educated, Ph.D.-holding, tenured professor girlfriend.

Ivy educated and a two timer. How will you feel when she dates the next guy and after a few dates dumps you?

I don't see the need to brag about her education? Was that in some way relevant? It sounds like you might be feeling like you need to compensate for her to timing behavior.

Re: The Lie Hollywood Loves to Tell

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Post by laxk » Sat, Mar 30, 2013, 4:09 AM UTC

Sign Up is broken.

http://www.cupidwithfriends.com/sorry : Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete.

The same issue with Chrome: The webpage at http://www.cupidwithfriends.com/sorry has resulted in too many redirects. Clearing your cookies for this site or allowing third-party cookies may fix the problem. If not, it is possibly a server configuration issue and not a problem with your computer.

I've tried to sign up under different fb accounts.

Re: The Lie Hollywood Loves to Tell

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Post by 01_bandit » Sat, Mar 30, 2013, 4:13 AM UTC

I'm going to get to the point. I was in the entertainment industry for 10 long years. My Jewish agent Yvette Bikoff told me to change my very German last name. I after setting up a joint account with her and moving abroad to shoot series (i was a from hte mid west and naive) she ended up trying to abscond a lot of $$$$ from the joint accnt. Long story short the woman who played my mother, her husband was a Jewish lawyer and threatened due to the sum to, to put her away for a very long time... There's the good the bad and ugly of SCHMOLLYWOOD. More bad, and ugly than good. Schmollywood is puppy mill for young goyim (means anyone not Jew) to come to Hollywood and try to make it... It's a total scam where if you gambled at a vegas casino you would have better odds... So the the stories Hollywood writes are ok'ed by Jewish heads of studios... All major TV networks (ABC, NBC, CBS) major movie studios (I live by Paramount) are headed by Jews. Its as if they want to dumb down the nation... The in Hollywood are incredibly racist and generalize other colors and creeds. but you'll never see a bad Jew in a movie, sitcom, or network show. Marlon Brando spoke about this on Larry King. (google) All the major Hollywood A list actors know this as well but would never say anything lest the studios black balled em... Mel Gibson, anyone...? They will not allow a media source or out let criticize them or their ideals in anyway. Pirate the fck out of them, fight for NO COPY RIGHT. Judaism is about power through financial collusion and control via the debt system. This is not a novel concept. The concept is not on the major networks so the idea or counter argument is never considered or if it is its' some white power idiot allowed on air to show that anyone who criticizes is an idiot conspiracy theorist... by the way I have a nice pension coming from the industry but if means people wake up and the media is once again fair and balanced Ill give it up in heart beat. Keep fighting. That being said a lot of Jews hate Hollywood too. Everything exists in the shades of grey. Rant off...

Re: The Lie Hollywood Loves to Tell

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Post by volandovengo » Sat, Mar 30, 2013, 4:22 AM UTC

Fantastic post. Thanks for the great breakdown :)

Re: The Lie Hollywood Loves to Tell

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Post by yarou » Sat, Mar 30, 2013, 4:23 AM UTC

I don't know where the author gets his statistics from, but I am skeptical that 75% of the population in the US uses online dating. It often takes decades for social and sexual mores to change (if you don't believe me, take a look at the ample evidence from history). I suppose I fail to grasp the value proposition of a service such as this, though it is certainly an interesting experiment.

Re: The Lie Hollywood Loves to Tell

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Post by angryasian » Sat, Mar 30, 2013, 4:34 AM UTC

yarou wrote: post #145

I don't know where the author gets his statistics from, but I am skeptical that 75% of the population in the US uses online dating. It often takes decades for social and sexual mores to change (if you don't believe me, take a look at the ample evidence from history). I suppose I fail to grasp the value proposition of a service such as this, though it is certainly an interesting experiment.

agree, i'd like citations as well.

Re: The Lie Hollywood Loves to Tell

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Post by philwelch » Sat, Mar 30, 2013, 4:52 AM UTC

wtvanhest wrote: post #132

philwelch wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You've written a lot of comments on this, but I'm reminded of a quote from Steve Jobs: "Do you create anything, or just criticize others work and belittle their motivations?"

philwelch, you hit the nail on the head, I couldn't figure out why I was so agitated by her comments, but I'm pretty sure this is it. Her ratio of value to criticism is too low for me I think. Further agitating me is that she has the top comment. I just can't imagine why someone would upvote it.

It's one thing to offer a perspective and perhaps some constructive criticism, but at some point you have to realize you've stated your point and just step back a little. It's the repeated comments for me. Jobs said that in exchange to a long and tiresome email thread--he actually took the guy seriously at first and responded straightforwardly to his points.

Re: The Lie Hollywood Loves to Tell

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Post by jmtame » Sat, Mar 30, 2013, 4:56 AM UTC

ahh wrote: post #96

djcapelis wrote: post #74

It was creepy the moment it wanted to authorize so much information from Facebook. Got creepier the moment the site asked me to start involving my friends without me knowing whether or not they wanted to be involved. Got super frustrating that my ability to even see how this site worked required me to drag my friends into this mess without their consent. And from what I can see, there's no way for me to specify which…

So...90% of people, give or take, are straight. Online dating is a clusterfuck of failure for straight people (ask anyone who's tried it, or the OP.) Online dating mostly works for gays and lesbians (you say so, I've seen the same from others.) And this guy is an idiot for trying to cater to the straight dating market? Precisely why?

Yep, Grindr notoriously has had great success with their app for non-straight people. It's something unique to that market, but when you try to speed up the dating process for straight people, it has always failed. Why? Because you're missing identity. Girls are still scared to meet strangers off the Internet when you speed the process up. And that's totally legit. I even worry about it sometimes, and I'm a guy. If you meet someone from OkCupid, and something happens, you have no way of knowing who is on the other end. You just don't know their true identity. So it's a huge risk.

To clarify, this is just me and another guy working on this. We don't get to spend 100% of our time writing code. We have to put a lot of thought into what to build first, before we build it. Social dating is more of a psychology game than anything. You can throw features at people, but unless they make the user comfortable and are highly engaging, it's all a waste of time. We're not trying to target straight people, we just haven't had the bandwidth to accomodate everyone else. We'll get there eventually though.

Re: The Lie Hollywood Loves to Tell

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Post by SilentStump » Sat, Mar 30, 2013, 5:02 AM UTC

potatolicious wrote: post #114

SilentStump wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing I notice on Eharmony's website is that they have a different Eharmony site for blacks, asians, latinos, homosexuals, seniors, etc.

They don't really. It all goes into the same membership pool - the difference is only in branding and possibly some smart defaults. The unique branding for subcultures and subgroups is a conversion-increasing trick, it doesn't mean they're really running a bunch of parallel eHarmony's.

I kind of figured that's probably just what they did. Being none of those things, I didn't really check them out.

Re: The Lie Hollywood Loves to Tell

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Post by klipt » Sat, Mar 30, 2013, 5:06 AM UTC

potatolicious wrote: post #117

rayiner wrote: post #13

Maybe it's my social circle (busy pushing-30 professionals) but I think there is almost zero stigma among my friends over online dating. In fact, less so among women than among men. Men for some reason feel they have to play the bar scene even if they don't like it or aren't good at it, but women feel no such need. Indeed, for a lot of my women friends, online dating offers the very real advantage that it's socially…

It's highly geographical. Cities with a dating "scene" are far friendlier towards online dating than otherwise. From your past posts it looks like you're NYC-based. NYC is by far (IMO) the best place to set up an online dating shop, since this city is by a very long shot the most accepting of online dating in the US. Disclaimer: I work for a NYC-area online dating shop. In many other cities, and in many subcultures a…

Not only that, but NYC has more single women than men. Which explains the eagerness of women there to do the choosing, and their openness to new dating methods in general.

Silicon Valley is the opposite. Too many single men, not enough women, inevitably means a sucky online dating experience for guys (unless you're in the very top attractiveness percentiles). I don't think any dating site can fix that, unless it matches Silicon Valley men to New York women or something.