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Re: I don't want to download your app

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

rhizome wrote: post #88
dkarl wrote: post #54

The Delta iPhone app saved my ass and let me check in right before the cut-off for flight I needed to make, while I was stuck in traffic in a cab outside the airport. However, downloading the app was preceded by ten minutes of trying desperately to check in using the Delta web site on my iPhone. I was stymied by a combination of strangely sized fonts (which forced me to zoom way in on a huge page in order to locate a…

I wouldn't be surprised if responsive/web-OK site views were budgeted away in favor of app development. They should be complementary, but this is an airline we're talking about.

Thing is, I'm fairly sure it would be cheaper to make the website responsive than to make a standalone app.

Re: I don't want to download your app

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Post by [deleted] »

RyanZAG wrote: post #84
sachingulaya wrote: post #71

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Many people do care. It gives context to short emails or emails with errors.

Then change it to 'Sent from my phone.' - changing it is a couple clicks, and anybody advertising a product in every message they send deserves any derision they get.

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Re: I don't want to download your app

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Post by nwh »

Evbn wrote: post #114
nwh wrote: post #53

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They also get unique identifiers for users. Yes the GUID is banned, but developers just use the devices MAC address instead.

Google analytics gives unique ids.

Until the cookies are cleared. MAC addresses are globally unique and completely unchangeable on iOS devices.

Re: I don't want to download your app

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Post by nwh »

krickle wrote: post #112
photorized wrote: post #22

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Oh, their motives are clear... It's the fact that they are doing absolutely nothing to entice the user to go through the inconvenience. This won't last.

I certainly hope it won't last! But there isn't a large downside to angering the few of us that were just passing by. My dream is having some AdBlock-style filters for misbehaving websites, run by tens of thousands of people. Then we could nip these practices in the bud.

There's not much stopping you from making exactly that. The main issue is that iOS devices won't allow users to install that sort of modification, and it doesn't look like newer iOS devices are going to be jailbroken any time soon. Older devices though, sure.

Re: I don't want to download your app

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Post by stevoski »

rhizome wrote: post #88
dkarl wrote: post #54

The Delta iPhone app saved my ass and let me check in right before the cut-off for flight I needed to make, while I was stuck in traffic in a cab outside the airport. However, downloading the app was preceded by ten minutes of trying desperately to check in using the Delta web site on my iPhone. I was stymied by a combination of strangely sized fonts (which forced me to zoom way in on a huge page in order to locate a…

I wouldn't be surprised if responsive/web-OK site views were budgeted away in favor of app development. They should be complementary, but this is an airline we're talking about.

Remember Hanlon's Razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

After being inside large, bureaucratic organisations, I've learnt that this is often the best explanation.

Re: I don't want to download your app

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Post by [deleted] »

arn wrote: post #97
dpe82 wrote: post #91

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Not if the content is standard text/images/video and the app gets in the way of consuming the content - which is what a user wants to do when they click on a link to an article. Can an app be superior because it allows other types of content that can't be done well via web technologies? Perhaps. Can an app help with content discovery? Perhaps. But when a user clicks on a link to standard text/images/video they're not…

My point being is that your original opinion seems entirely predicated on the fact that Apps are worse experiences than mobile web. I think this is clearly wrong. For web-apps, I think native-apps can function much better. I guess we'll never ever see a Vidmaker app? But that's all beside the point... you are so quick to argue against me, you don't even see that we agree. Re-read my original post. As I said, the exec…

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Re: I don't want to download your app

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Post by dpe82 »

arn wrote: post #97
dpe82 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not if the content is standard text/images/video and the app gets in the way of consuming the content - which is what a user wants to do when they click on a link to an article. Can an app be superior because it allows other types of content that can't be done well via web technologies? Perhaps. Can an app help with content discovery? Perhaps. But when a user clicks on a link to standard text/images/video they're not…

My point being is that your original opinion seems entirely predicated on the fact that Apps are worse experiences than mobile web. I think this is clearly wrong. For web-apps, I think native-apps can function much better. I guess we'll never ever see a Vidmaker app? But that's all beside the point... you are so quick to argue against me, you don't even see that we agree. Re-read my original post. As I said, the exec…

You're right, I shouldn't be so absolutist. Most of my strong reaction is to sites that abuse users by getting in the way and pushing them into an app that doesn't add anything. I guess I'm crabby about it. Don't take it personally.

Re: I don't want to download your app

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Post by subsection1h »

zaidf wrote: post #125
RyanZAG wrote: post #84

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Then change it to 'Sent from my phone.' - changing it is a couple clicks, and anybody advertising a product in every message they send deserves any derision they get.

Knowing which device they are on helps me in small ways I don't even consciously remember. For example if someone replied and I knew they are on an iPad this moment, I know that I probably can't expect them to easily sign the PDF agreement I'm about to send and if I really want it. Ack urgently, I should provide an iPad-friendly method to sign and return. This becomes crucial when you are doing back and forth between…

If knowing the user agent is seriously crucial for you, you shouldn't rely on "Sent from " messages that can be disabled. Instead, you should use an email client that provides functionality similar to the Display Mail User Agent extension for Thunderbird:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/thunderbird/addon/display-m...

Re: I don't want to download your app

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Post by omarchowdhury »

Shank wrote: post #62
ghayes wrote: post #38

The worst for me was a site (forget which one) which asked me to download the app, and then redirected me to their homepage when I declined (as opposed to the article I was trying to read). That was an unfortunate user experience.

This, so much this. I think Gawker is one who does it - if you change from the mobile version to desktop version you lose the page you were on.

Looking for that page again means more ad loads.

Re: I don't want to download your app

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Post by jrockway »

dkarl wrote: post #54

The Delta iPhone app saved my ass and let me check in right before the cut-off for flight I needed to make, while I was stuck in traffic in a cab outside the airport. However, downloading the app was preceded by ten minutes of trying desperately to check in using the Delta web site on my iPhone. I was stymied by a combination of strangely sized fonts (which forced me to zoom way in on a huge page in order to locate a…

> In any other circumstance, I would have given up, gone to a competitor, and filed the company and brand name in my brain under "fuck you." (Actually, I did that last part anyway.)

This is why I never want to own an airline: you get blamed when your customer leaves his house too late to be at the airport on time.

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