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Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years and a $200B market-cap wipeout

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Re: Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years and a $200B market-cap wipeout

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> In my entire life it felt like the Nike/Adidas duopoly was unbreakable, and then it felt suddenly that Hoka was everywhere. Man, I'm in such different circles than everyone. I've never heard of Hoka and I don't know any sneakerheads. Everyone I know is into Keens, Toms, or Sketchers.

i think one can be in Sketchers but who is into Sketchers?

My mom. She is at that age when tying your shoelaces becomes difficult.

The human body really was never supposed to go over 50 but modern medicine finds a way.

Re: Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years and a $200B market-cap wipeout

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Nike's destruction over the past 5 years was really surprised and until I read up about the whole "direct to consumer" fiasco it really helped me understand another trend I was a bit confused about. About 2-3 years, it felt like, out of nowhere everyone was wearing Hoka and On brand sneakers. In my entire life it felt like the Nike/Adidas duopoly was unbreakable, and then it felt suddenly that Hoka was everywhere. Wh…

Allbirds never made serious running shoes. Hoka grew out of the ultra running scene and broadened their offering.. On are European and went hard with their unusual sole design.

Hoka has a fairly unusual corporate history. They were founded in 2009 in Annecy, France. (Yeah, read that twice. No hate on Annecy, but that is a mega brand being started from a tiny French city!) Then in 2013, they were acquired by California-based Deckers Brands which is also the owner of UGG and Teva.

The real question: How did they become the Lululemon of casual sneakers? Just like lots of women who don't do yoga and barely attend the gym, they cannot get enough Lululemon in their wardrobe. The same can be said for Hoka running shoes: All kinds of normies that barely exercise wear them anywhere and always.

Re: Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years and a $200B market-cap wipeout

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post #47

Nike's destruction over the past 5 years was really surprised and until I read up about the whole "direct to consumer" fiasco it really helped me understand another trend I was a bit confused about. About 2-3 years, it felt like, out of nowhere everyone was wearing Hoka and On brand sneakers. In my entire life it felt like the Nike/Adidas duopoly was unbreakable, and then it felt suddenly that Hoka was everywhere. Wh…

Whats surprising to me is that all the brands you mentioned are just so ugly and simply not cool. Nike tries to position itself as Apple of sports but it probably doesn't work that well outside of high tech market because there are still many brands doing the high end at leas as well as them.

    > all the brands you mentioned are just so ugly and simply not cool
Specific to Hoka: They are a status symbol probably started/hyped by social media. All kinds of people wear them who aren't remotely into running or exercise.

Re: Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years and a $200B market-cap wipeout

#147
This is the end of an era.-

PS. To those objecting in the silent cowardice of a downvote: The exiting of something as basic as shoes (modulo lifestyle/"luxury") further represents "software" eating the world" look at the newcomers to the S&P 100:

  DELL — Dell Technologies
  PANW — Palo Alto Networks
  ANET — Arista Networks
  SNDK — SanDisk

Re: Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years and a $200B market-cap wipeout

#148
post #125

Beyond the stock market gambling aspect, what actually happened here? > revenue down 2% That means almost nothing, right? Some fluctuation must be expected. The Stock also looks like it really benefited from a Corona boost that is now cooling off. Can someone with more insight explain why everyone is screaming?

    > Beyond the stock market gambling aspect
First, the United States' stock markets (NYSE + NASDAQ) are not gambling. An index-tracking portfolio has never lost money over a 20 year time frame for the last 125 years.

Google tells me:

    > Nike Annual Revenue Breakdown
    > Fiscal Year 2026: $46.40 billion (+0.19% YoY)
    > Fiscal Year 2025: $46.31 billion (-9.84% YoY)
    > Fiscal Year 2024: $51.36 billion (+0.28% YoY)
Many Wall Street analysts will tell you that a stock price is the value of its future earnings growth. Nike has had three terrible years. As a result, their stock is in the toilet.

Re: Nike exits the S&P 100 after 18 years and a $200B market-cap wipeout

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post #125

Beyond the stock market gambling aspect, what actually happened here? > revenue down 2% That means almost nothing, right? Some fluctuation must be expected. The Stock also looks like it really benefited from a Corona boost that is now cooling off. Can someone with more insight explain why everyone is screaming?

No one is screaming. Nike’s market cap is just being right-sized to reflect the lack of moat in the clothing/shoe business. Personally, Nike’s $54B vs Adidas’ $28B is still too high.
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