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Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

#141

That's so weird... This doesn't at all match my experience with Claude. I've never seen it behave this way.

Same. I have never seen it (Opus) act like this either. EVER. Not in the past 3 years at least.

Be specific.

That said, GPT always acts up even if I am specific, but I only have the free tier there.

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

#142

That's so weird... This doesn't at all match my experience with Claude. I've never seen it behave this way.

same. none of the available prompts are what I would prompt claude with and I get way better results than this. makes sense to me why the provided prompts result in the simulated outcomes. garbage in, garbage out.

It "makes sense" that plainly telling the chat bot to make one button blue makes the whole site blue? It "makes sense" that correcting it and repeating 3 times that no, only the one button should be blue, should make the button a gradient and start a philosophical discussion around the nature of "blue"?

Wow, you AI people really have a negative view of the technology y'all are trying to sell as the next Jesus

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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post #119

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Models hallucinate plausible answers to why they did things. It might be true and it might be complete fiction.

I'm growing increasingly confident that this is how people often work, as well.

I kind of want my computer systems to be more reliable and predictable than paying an intern to manage something and asking why they messed up

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Models hallucinate plausible answers to why they did things. It might be true and it might be complete fiction.

I'm growing increasingly confident that this is how people often work, as well.

Every time I hear someone complain about hallucinations, I laugh at the total lack of self awareness about our species. Humans are just as bad (now, probably worse) at telling the truth, whether due to intention or poor memory.

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Models hallucinate plausible answers to why they did things. It might be true and it might be complete fiction.

I'm growing increasingly confident that this is how people often work, as well.

“Post Hoc Rationalisation”

https://www.patheos.com/blogs/tippling/2013/11/14/post-hoc-r...

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

#146

> Why is half the site blue now? I asked you to change one button. > Half the site is blue. I asked for ONE button. Those are my only options when the site is clearly not blue, two buttons are. There is a reason for why I am much more specific than this.

Yeah, if this is how people interact with claude I’m not surprised they’re having a bad time in ways that I don’t. Asking it why it did something or getting combative is a waste of time.

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

#147

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Models hallucinate plausible answers to why they did things. It might be true and it might be complete fiction.

You can also literally tell them: "Here is your session ID: $ID, lookup the .jsonl session, trace exactly why this decision was being made, present evidence and concrete proof, no guessing or assumptions" and you'll get an evidence-based report without guesses.

It can always hallucinate said report results/evidence/proof just the same. This approach tends to help reduce the hallucination rate though.

You can extend this further by using an adversarial agent trying to find mistakes in the other instance's logs in a loop where a 3rd neutral agent weighs the claims of the other two. This is also just another step in reducing error, it does not guarantee elimination of such errors. The latter is an impossible guarantee, even for humans.

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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When you've been perfectly precise in your spec and language, isn't that programming? Why use a stochastic goblin to do things in that case?

For me, typing "Create a new namespace with these enums, functions and traits, that should follow X, Y and Z constraints" is faster than typing all that code manually, and typing less is less straining on my hands/fingers.

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Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

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post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm growing increasingly confident that this is how people often work, as well.

I kind of want my computer systems to be more reliable and predictable than paying an intern to manage something and asking why they messed up

At this point it very dramatically is more reliable and predictable than any human I've worked with.

Do you know anyone who actually reads and adheres closely to all of the documentation every time it's changed?

Re: Claude, change the “Add to Cart” button to blue

#150

At least with Codex, this has not been my experience at all. It still screws up sure, but in every case I can ask "why did you do this" and it can trace back what made it take that particular decision. Typically it's always that I either didn't specify the problem correctly or made a really dumb mistake (executing the task on the wrong project....did this one yesterday) or it's something within a skill file that inst…

Models hallucinate plausible answers to why they did things. It might be true and it might be complete fiction.

The point of the parent post is that the explanation shows they made the error themselves, so it's immediately validated.
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