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Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining

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1786456998 | Why Did OpenAI's Head of Ethics Chlo Bakalar Leave? | https://aimagazine.com/news/why-did-openai-head-of-ethics-ch... | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49258581

That is a dupe. This is your game now? Automated spam comments?

Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining

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How do I get on this gravy train

“Careless People” lays it out pretty well – you either need to make the right friends in college at an Ivy League or you need to be friends with someone else who did. If you made the mistake of not being born into a family that groomed you since birth for the ivy leagues then sorry, that ship has sailed already.

Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining

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No influence, same toil? One must imagine her happy.

Why must I imagine that? We're assuming it's a position where you're screaming pointlessly into the void, and never accomplish anything. That sounds miserable, I'd leave, too.

One Must Imagine Sisyphus Happy is the concluding sentence of Albert Camus' essay The Myth of Sisyphus. It parallels her situation.

Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining

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Rubber stamp for hire?

I'd accept a few hundred grand to reply to emails with "No, the torment nexus is a net benefit.."

gotta be more verbose if you want the CEO to think you're worth it. Try this:

"Although the torment nexus may torment us in the short term, over the long term there will be fewer people to torment as we improve the capitalization of human's torment so that fewer people will be available to torment duing to the reduction in overall torment-forces globally, and thus, with less people being tormented, surely that will increase the over all torment reduction of the nexus. Win-win: less tormented people means less torment!

Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining

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How do I get on this gravy train

“Careless People” lays it out pretty well – you either need to make the right friends in college at an Ivy League or you need to be friends with someone else who did. If you made the mistake of not being born into a family that groomed you since birth for the ivy leagues then sorry, that ship has sailed already.

And then if you didn't make that mistake, you end up as either:

a) champaign socialist

b) head of ethics at OpenAI and not really listened to because you're really probably (a)

Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining

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Wouldn't that be probably one of the most important places to have an ethics team? I'd be much more worried if my local water treatment plant or local bar had an ethics team, and people working there probably would feel slightly more useless than Raytheon's ethics team, which I'm sure feel like they're doing something important and worthwhile.

Come on, what do you think the ethics team at Raytheon is going to say "Hmm, our elected leaders are relying heavily on dangerously inaccurate AI to choose bombing targets and our weapons hit a girl's school as a result, let's withhold weapons from our own govt till that's resolved"? Obviously not. The ethics team at Raytheon is not going to ever be allowed to overrule the leadership or more importantly the political…

Obviously so. Raytheon is a private company that has its own equities to consider: including things like public image, legal liability, etc. The idea that the USG says jump and Raytheon says how high is absurd. They make choices and even advise the USG at times.

Re: OpenAI’s head of ethics leaves less than a year after joining

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IME companies hire an ethics team to say they have an ethics team. The ethics team has no sway, no influence, and will never be able to move the business. They will try, and they will make reasonable recommendations, but the company will say, "that costs money..." and not take them.

If you ever feel like your job is useless, remember that raytheon has an ethics team.

I think you need to spend more time understanding ethics and less time reading memes
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