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'Pervert glasses': Backlash against Meta's smart glasses grows

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Re: 'Pervert glasses': Backlash against Meta's smart glasses grows

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Post by foco_tubi »

yoyohello13 wrote: post #123
andy_ppp wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you want this? I honestly think we’ve completely forgotten how to be present and notice the real world without the idea of augmenting it.

I wouldn't wear them when I'm walking in the woods or hanging out at home. Having 'incoming car warning', or waypoint nav when I'm biking/running? That would be great!

Garmin has offered this for years. As a plus, the Varia taillight has a radar, so you don’t have to wear your pervert glasses on the back of your helmet to alert for incoming cars.

Re: 'Pervert glasses': Backlash against Meta's smart glasses grows

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Post by codazoda »

jesse_dot_id wrote: post #119

I have a friend that works at Meta who was all the way convinced this tech was going to be ubiquitous well before they came out and I have always been like, "Yeah, until one hillbilly kills some guy for looking at his daughter with them on and it goes viral." It just seems like a no-brainer that these things will invite violence upon you once a critical mass of the population understands what they are, and thus peopl…

I wore these glasses for two years. I won't buy them again for reasons mentioned elsewhere. In that time nobody ever mentioned them. It's relatively difficult to pick these out in a crowd, unless they are actively recording (and even then it's hard to notice).

Re: 'Pervert glasses': Backlash against Meta's smart glasses grows

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Post by mrguyorama »

jayd16 wrote: post #45
andy_ppp wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you want this? I honestly think we’ve completely forgotten how to be present and notice the real world without the idea of augmenting it.

Because its cool. I mean, the real answer is that we have the technology to be tech wizards. You could conjure spatially anchored widgets and screens and gauges. You could put a cooking show screen above the stove, where a physical screen wouldn't work. You could put a synced calendar on the wall. Notes app on the fridge, weather reminders by the door. ...a million mundane conveniences in the house alone. But still,…

People always say this like having an actual board of notes on the fridge hasn't been trivially possible for a century.

It's like people obsessing over window managers. 99% of the time, the amount of windows you have showing is not the problem, you can't really focus on more than one at a time anyway.

Consider as a demonstrative example, race car drivers. They have had options to have extremely detailed Heads Up Displays with all sorts of absurd data available at a glance for decades. But they largely do not use tons of data like that, because it's just not compatible with the human brain. They already are looking at things more often and processing more info than a "normal" person while racing, but that heads up display would not benefit them.

Similarly, the Heads Up Display for modern fighter jets is very lightweight, focusing on allowing you to see around it and provide you the very basics of flight instrumentation and a standard orientation instrument.

People just have wild ideas about how to "optimize" their lives that are just not supported by reality.

You would be better off making flash cards about those things you want to "know" in that moment and drilling them.

I too used to be drawn to this idea. Back in 2016ish, I got an ODBII dongle for my car and app for my phone and was so excited about all the data I was going to have at a glance, just like some sort of pro! But the data was pointless and meaningless. Oh, timing advance is at 20 degrees in this throttle regime. Cool I guess.

Eventually I gave up and only have my car showing instantaneous fuel efficiency, which is the only valuable data point for my needs.

Re: 'Pervert glasses': Backlash against Meta's smart glasses grows

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Post by foco_tubi »

bigblind wrote: post #46
andy_ppp wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you want this? I honestly think we’ve completely forgotten how to be present and notice the real world without the idea of augmenting it.

I think you can be present in the moment, but still find value in a tool like this. I may not be "the norm" because I'm legally blind, but in some sense, a tool like this could make me even more present. I currently use my phone a lot to zoom in on signs to read them. I'd love it if I wouldn't have to hold a phone in front of my face, just to know whether the place I'm standing in front of is, in fact, Jimmy's Barber…

I do think accessibility is a great market for innovation like this, but it doesn’t mean it’s appropriate for general populations. Take electric mobility devices, for example. Electric wheelchairs are great for people who are paralyzed, but e-scooters have become a scourge for some urban residents as their users park them on sidewalks, block curb cuts, and generally get in the way of pedestrians.

Re: 'Pervert glasses': Backlash against Meta's smart glasses grows

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Post by axus »

adolph wrote: post #94
fusslo wrote: post #69

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I think I agree with this sentiment most. I am having trouble articulating it. I think wearing smart glasses in some situations is on a scale between rude, offensive, and wrong. I think that's what culture teaches us about what is and what isn't acceptable behavior, right? Like some places teach us it's rude to speak over each-other. Here in New England it is rude not to. I am 100% on board with calling smart glasses…

What situations call for "Pervert glasses?"

Active duty police officers. Anything that applies to bodycams should apply to other public recording devices.

Re: 'Pervert glasses': Backlash against Meta's smart glasses grows

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Post by hn_submit »

rimbo789 wrote: post #99

These should have never even been prototyped. An obviously terrible ideal with obvious many negative social consquences. They should be banned from the market immediately.

They'll keep trying because there's big advertising dollars to be had. Everything you look at will result in a "relevant" ad.

Google already found out the hard way that these glasses aren't socially acceptable. Meta will have to learn the same hard lesson. Maybe others too.

Re: 'Pervert glasses': Backlash against Meta's smart glasses grows

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Post by alickz »

hgoel wrote: post #122
aqme28 wrote: post #90

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To be clear, I don’t think this reaction is irrational at all. I’m curious though why you do.

This kind of discrete recording capability already is so widespread and accessible. Amazon is full of these kinds of devices, tiny "AI" audio recorders, pens with hidden cameras etc. They don't even require much technical competency. People also walk around with their phones out so often. There's no way for you to know that they aren't recording. E.g. someone could easily be pretending to use their phone when climbin…

Yeah that was my reaction too

If you're a pervert, you wouldn't want the victim to know you're recording them

If you don't want someone to know you're recording them, you wouldn't wear the famous Recording Glasses

But I don't know, maybe I'm overestimating the average pervert

Re: 'Pervert glasses': Backlash against Meta's smart glasses grows

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Post by zlarin »

What comes to mind are those orange tip laws mandating that airsoft guns must be manufactured with an orange tip to differentiate them visually from real firearms.

In this case, maybe there could be some mandated standardized high-viz indicator that there is a camera lens being pointed at you in wearable devices.

I could see maybe allowing the high-viz element to be concealed if the mechanism concealing it also blocks the lens.

Re: 'Pervert glasses': Backlash against Meta's smart glasses grows

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Post by jexe »

andy_ppp wrote: post #22
yoyohello13 wrote: post #6

Tech is so frustrating in real life. I feel like we have all the cool sci fi stuff I always wanted, but everything comes with a monkey's paw style gotcha. The idea of meta glasses is so awesome, I want a heads up display to show me whatever I want. But there is no way in hell I would use them because the company that makes it can’t be trusted.

Why do you want this? I honestly think we’ve completely forgotten how to be present and notice the real world without the idea of augmenting it.

As a parent of a new kid, being present is exactly why I wanted a pair - I didn't want to spend time looking at them through a screen, but still wanted to keepsake some precious early moments.

(didn't work out that way in practice, but that was the idea)

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