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Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

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Re: Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

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Post by mikestew »

IndySun wrote: post #64

This is awful. I went on a deep dive on Terrys site after that post. Full of sage advice, decent rss ideas, the astronomy page and the website, the options, colors all look fantastic. Not a good day for Terry.

Full of sage advice, decent rss ideas, the astronomy page and the website, the options, colors all look fantastic.

And how much of that is original with the blog author? Previously, one might have just given them the benefit of the doubt, as it should be. But now it swings the other way, and I'll assume that the author not only doesn't have an original thought in their head, they'll lie to cover their ass, too.

Re: Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

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Post by natch »

user43928 wrote: post #6

On the previous HN posts I got this impression: The developer's astrology app containing tarot reading features was rejected from Apple's App Store that prohibits astrology apps. He then replaced the app's content with a clone of, if not the identical open source astronomy app "Dark Hours", copying even the name. The original is here: https://darkhours.app The developer was then in contact with John Gruber, who wrote…

I’ve noticed that when a developer cries foul over an Apple App Store rejection, it often seems to be a red flag that there is something fishy about that developer. Gruber, not to his credit, often does not give Apple the benefit of the doubt on these matters. imho he bears some responsibility if he feels duped.

Re: Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

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Post by sellmesoap »

user43928 wrote: post #6

On the previous HN posts I got this impression: The developer's astrology app containing tarot reading features was rejected from Apple's App Store that prohibits astrology apps. He then replaced the app's content with a clone of, if not the identical open source astronomy app "Dark Hours", copying even the name. The original is here: https://darkhours.app The developer was then in contact with John Gruber, who wrote…

Maybe our attention is being farmed? I have a friend who does astrology readings for a living and was curious why the app store doesn't allow astrology apps, a quick search revealed astrology apps exist on the app store so that's a red herring.

Re: Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

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Post by mikestew »

blitzar wrote: post #75

I wish we lived in a society where bullshitting your way through a Mea Culpa would have consequences, but sadly I suspect someone is going to "punish" this one by giving them a top job or funding some equally bullshit startup.

Certainly, this isn't going to be career-ending, as it should. No, someone with just as few morals as OP will say to themselves, "just the kind of person I was looking for!", and the failing up begins.

Re: Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

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Post by zymhan »

tremon wrote: post #122
user43928 wrote: post #6

On the previous HN posts I got this impression: The developer's astrology app containing tarot reading features was rejected from Apple's App Store that prohibits astrology apps. He then replaced the app's content with a clone of, if not the identical open source astronomy app "Dark Hours", copying even the name. The original is here: https://darkhours.app The developer was then in contact with John Gruber, who wrote…

> Apple's App Store that prohibits astrology apps That's curious. What legitimate-sounding reason could Apple have to reject astrology on their platform? Isn't this exactly the kind of discrimination against fields of endeavour that would make a slam-dunk case for any antitrust enforcement?

> Isn't this exactly the kind of discrimination against fields of endeavour that would make a slam-dunk case for any antitrust enforcement?

No.

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Post by SamBam »

user43928 wrote: post #6

On the previous HN posts I got this impression: The developer's astrology app containing tarot reading features was rejected from Apple's App Store that prohibits astrology apps. He then replaced the app's content with a clone of, if not the identical open source astronomy app "Dark Hours", copying even the name. The original is here: https://darkhours.app The developer was then in contact with John Gruber, who wrote…

Also note that Goodier's post that kicked off Gruber's post now says it had a section about "an astronomy app I am working on that began as an astrology app," [1] but the older version of the article clearly implied that the author was baffled as to why Apple would ever think it related to Tarot cards. [2]

1. https://blog.terrygodier.com/2026/08/07/browsers-have-standa...

2. https://web.archive.org/web/20260807141155/https://blog.terr...

Re: Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

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Post by [deleted] »

tremon wrote: post #122
user43928 wrote: post #6

On the previous HN posts I got this impression: The developer's astrology app containing tarot reading features was rejected from Apple's App Store that prohibits astrology apps. He then replaced the app's content with a clone of, if not the identical open source astronomy app "Dark Hours", copying even the name. The original is here: https://darkhours.app The developer was then in contact with John Gruber, who wrote…

> Apple's App Store that prohibits astrology apps That's curious. What legitimate-sounding reason could Apple have to reject astrology on their platform? Isn't this exactly the kind of discrimination against fields of endeavour that would make a slam-dunk case for any antitrust enforcement?

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Re: Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

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Post by MrDrone »

NikxDa wrote: post #56

The thing that stands out to me with all of this is how little accountability there is left within the field. Published a rip-off? "Sorry, Claude must have done this". Published a shitty/wrong/insensitive/ post somewhere? "Sorry, the AI wrote it" Regardless of how we view LLMs as a whole, if you produce content with AI and publish it, you personally own every line of what you published. "Claude did it" cannot ever be…

I think it's time to bring back the IBM classic.

> A computer can never be held accountable. Therefore a computer must never make a management decision

Re: Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

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Post by progval »

cube00 wrote: post #128
prodigycorp wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

he redirected the domain darkhours.io to darkhours.app. seems pretty fair

> seems pretty fair Until 1st August 2027 when the domain will expire (I doubt Terry will keep paying for the domain) leaving those users who memorised the .io version stranded. You'll note they only redirected it, they didn't offer to transfer the domain.

And they're using a temporary redirect (HTTP 302) so browsers won't automatically redirect users when this happens.
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