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Re: My server is a phone now

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Post by iLoveOncall »

tkgally wrote: post #100

Side comment about the difference between “My server is a phone now” and “My phone is a server now.” In linguistics, the terms “theme” and “rheme” refer to the status of information in a sentence [1]. The theme of a sentence is something that is known or can be assumed from the context (that is, old information), while the rheme is information that is newly introduced in the sentence, often as a comment on the theme.…

Regardless it is extremely poor phrasing and would have been easily addressed by using "My phone runs a server now".

It's borderline clickbait, unless the author is an English graduate and assumes all their reader will be too. A phone running a server is not very interesting and has been shared many many times on HN before, while I've not heard of a phone running on a server before (which I why I clicked at all).

Re: My server is a phone now

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Post by totetsu »

tkgally wrote: post #100

Side comment about the difference between “My server is a phone now” and “My phone is a server now.” In linguistics, the terms “theme” and “rheme” refer to the status of information in a sentence [1]. The theme of a sentence is something that is known or can be assumed from the context (that is, old information), while the rheme is information that is newly introduced in the sentence, often as a comment on the theme.…

Where did you end up on for “gensoku ni”?

Re: My server is a phone now

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Post by amelius »

dlcarrier wrote: post #59
thehamkercat wrote: post #2

"My phone is a server now" would've been better -- > built in battery backup Isn't it always recommended to remove battery if you plan to use a phone or a laptop as a server? ( Fire hazard ) or is it fine to just limit the charging to 80%?

I prefer to assume he's lugging a 12U mini relay rack around with him, including a UPS and cellular fallback for networking, so he can run an Android VM and use it as his cell phone. See also, this atomic clock wristwatch: http://leapsecond.com/pages/atomic-bill/

It would be nice if servers had a small touch screen, since they cost nothing in comparison.

Re: My server is a phone now

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Post by farfatched »

rtpg wrote: post #135
firasd wrote: post #12

Yeah ‘old phones’ are pretty capable devices. I’ve wondered for a while if they could be used as an extension to your laptop like the old 80s PCs where you would plug in hardware. So ‘make it a server’ is the obvious way I guess, and then you could do things like render webpages on there and then stream them as images to your actual computer (like the now shutdown Mighty app), or run ffmpeg on there to convert a vide…

The thing I've heard with people who do this "at scale" is to expect the phones to burn out. They're made for pretty bursty activity so if you try to do too much on em continuously they start acting weird real quick

What does "burn out" mean?

Doesn't the CPU throttle if the phone gets too hot?

Or maybe some parts like the eMMC aren't spec'd for things like constant logging?

Re: My server is a phone now

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Post by rd07 »

I have similar idea of using my old Xiaomi Mi A1 as a server, but I have never actually done it. The author's first idea and mine was similar, replacing Android with PostmarketOS. And here is the difference, I was not brave enough to actually install PostmarketOS to my phone. Especially after looking at the Postmarket Wiki where not all features for my phone are flagged as supported.

In the end, I abandoned the idea and opted on purchasing an Android TV Box that has been installed with Raspbian for my home server. Sure it may not be as powerful as my phone, but it came with full blown USB that I can use to add any storage I want and it was cheap (today, it was approximately USD 11-12).

Re: My server is a phone now

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Post by throw1234567891 »

iLoveOncall wrote: post #141
tkgally wrote: post #100

Side comment about the difference between “My server is a phone now” and “My phone is a server now.” In linguistics, the terms “theme” and “rheme” refer to the status of information in a sentence [1]. The theme of a sentence is something that is known or can be assumed from the context (that is, old information), while the rheme is information that is newly introduced in the sentence, often as a comment on the theme.…

Regardless it is extremely poor phrasing and would have been easily addressed by using "My phone runs a server now". It's borderline clickbait, unless the author is an English graduate and assumes all their reader will be too. A phone running a server is not very interesting and has been shared many many times on HN before, while I've not heard of a phone running on a server before (which I why I clicked at all).

Accusing someone of click baiting to excuse your own ignorance. Hawker News?

Re: My server is a phone now

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Post by danangReader »

BiteCode_dev wrote: post #140
tkgally wrote: post #100

Side comment about the difference between “My server is a phone now” and “My phone is a server now.” In linguistics, the terms “theme” and “rheme” refer to the status of information in a sentence [1]. The theme of a sentence is something that is known or can be assumed from the context (that is, old information), while the rheme is information that is newly introduced in the sentence, often as a comment on the theme.…

Yeah I first read it as he turned his server into a calling device.

Me too.

Re: My server is a phone now

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Post by pjmlp »

It is incredible the amount of gimmicks some folks will go through, even if it was to stay with reuse Android phone story, Java and Kotlin as regular Android app already provide all the juice required to do the job.

Re: My server is a phone now

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Post by iLoveOncall »

throw1234567891 wrote: post #147
iLoveOncall wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regardless it is extremely poor phrasing and would have been easily addressed by using "My phone runs a server now". It's borderline clickbait, unless the author is an English graduate and assumes all their reader will be too. A phone running a server is not very interesting and has been shared many many times on HN before, while I've not heard of a phone running on a server before (which I why I clicked at all).

Accusing someone of click baiting to excuse your own ignorance. Hawker News?

That's a funny thing to say when even the long explanation I'm answering to does point out the fact that it cannot be reliably determined purely from the title in this case.
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