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I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Indieweb is sometimes tied to self-hosting to give people configurabilty and flexibilty. It does keep indieweb for the few and not the many.

Rather than self-hosting, IndieWeb advocate for managing hosting; like GitHub Pages or similar.

"Say no to big tech by buying services"

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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ask street-bbq vendor or cleaning-lady or uber-driver what is a "GitHub"

If you can learn to make a hamburger, with or without AI, they can learn to manage their site.

Have you been past a tradies white van in the last 20 years?

They, if you're lucky, may have "davethepublumber.co.uk" and then "dave6969@gmail.com" printed on the side

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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I feel some uneasiness when I go to a website branded as "indieweb," and see a link to the author's CV prominently on the page. Sometimes you also see a professional taken headshot of the author or an enthusiastic description of his work history at prestigious institutions. And it's always a professionally made blog. You know the drill. It feels like walking into a brightly lit clothing store in a fancy mall and seei…

"But you live in a society"

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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I feel some uneasiness when I go to a website branded as "indieweb," and see a link to the author's CV prominently on the page. Sometimes you also see a professional taken headshot of the author or an enthusiastic description of his work history at prestigious institutions. And it's always a professionally made blog. You know the drill. It feels like walking into a brightly lit clothing store in a fancy mall and seei…

I see more simple blogs about the joys of having a blog. It’s still much better than the cottage industry around growth hacking your Substack. A personal website is whatever you want it to be. Mine is getting more personal with every passing year because I don’t need a job. I want to geek out about stuff. However people’s websites are a product of the society they live in. Them bills gotta get paid.

I always enjoy randomly stumbling on someones family blog/website. Especially if it's on a ~username/ directory.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Once again I will say my theory of how the internet became a few walled gardens: NOBODY WANTS TO HOST. Hosting sucks. It costs time and money. There are constantly new exploits to work around.

Yes, there are people who want their own host (The IndieWeb or Gemini communities are a clear example). The problem is that convenience is always the priority; there are no incentives.

I go through ebbs-and-flow of self hosting. Having an entire stack, with backups, even some HA when I'm feeling fancy.

Then I get my electricity bill

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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I'm asking you out of pure curiosity, it's not an attack: what difference does it make to have a domain controlled by Google versus a more general one?

If Google doesn't like you, it can remove your domain. Also, many people (apparently not you) are uncomfortable giving money to Google. Google also ends up with some limited information about who is accessing your website.

Registrars, even when they "own" the TLD can't unilaterally remove you.

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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Meh. “Won” who? For a long time I was sad about the lost web, but it turns out most people on social media that has replaced the web have nothing interesting to say. I am sad about local groups and forums, but that is not something that IndieWeb is trying to solve. The other problem is businesses that have retired to Instagram. which I find baffling.

So then why are so many, so eager and committed, to overturn the big platforms if “most people”… “have nothing interesting to say.”?

because the ones who have interesting things to say and want to say it for themselves number many, despite being very small in the face of the unwashed masses

Re: I joined the IndieWeb, here's what I learned

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No. Exact opposite. Opening it up to everyone is what kills everything good, the endless september of grocery store tabloid aisles and clickbait. Gatekeepers are good, restrictions on participation are good. The internet was better when it was a self selecting place for interesting interested people and not the global walmart.

Eh, I feel like the issue with this logic is that being technically savvy and having interesting things to say aren't really that heavily correlated. Plenty of people are incredibly knowledgeable about non-technical fields and have tons of things they could say about them, but aren't technical enough to setup a website (or in many cases, edit videos/run a YouTube channel/etc either). Meanwhile there are also plenty o…

You aren't getting the point though. Despite the burdens being technical in nature, they aren't very complex. There's just enough friction to prevent every village idiot from publishing, but the friction is easy enough to overcome that anyone with something actually interesting to discuss or useful to add to a discussion can overcome it in at most a weekend
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