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The US grocery slowdown is real

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Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by darth_avocado »

darth_avocado wrote: post #56
Avicebron wrote: post #3

They should just lead with people don't have any money to buy things because wages aren't increasing to match living expenses. It cuts back some of the fig leaves

Everything costs too much. I went to the grocery store yesterday I spent $50 to get a packet of bread, a dozen eggs, two yogurts, two yellow onions, a jalapeno, two tomatoes and a bunch of parsley. This covers breakfast for 2 days for my partner and I. In 2022, $150 would fetch the entire week’s groceries for the two of us. We are paying more, while having to change what we eat with cheaper/unhealthier options. Other…

I can’t edit the comment but I think people have a reactionary response to this comment, and are comparing grocery prices at the cheapest store available to them.

The comment was meant as a comparison to the same store prices in 2022. If your argument is that “Walmart is cheaper, shop there”, how much more expensive is Walmart as compared to 2022? If your argument is that “don’t buy everything at the same store or buy cheaper brands”, is that something you had to do before or is that your response to raised prices. If your argument is “well you live in an expensive, I don’t”, has your grocery bill remained the same as compared to your income from a few years ago (you could’ve gotten a promotion or a new job, but that’s not the point).

Also keep in mind, shop at XYZ is not really a great way to think about this because not everyone has access to the same stores.

Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by za3faran »

darth_avocado wrote: post #114
Brybry wrote: post #76

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I feel like some of that is maybe shopping at the wrong place. Which the article I guess covers by saying people are addressing by changing retailers to save money. Where I am in the US, you can get a dozen eggs for ~$2 at Walmart. A loaf of bread with 22 slices is like $2 to $6 depending on store brand vs name brand. The canned refried beans I buy are still $1.30 to $1.50 for 4-5 servings. Some stuff is way too expe…

I don’t have Walmart to go to but I do have a Costco. But like I mentioned in a different comment, I can’t do normal groceries there because of the space I have + how much I can consume before it all goes bad. I still shop for a lot of things at Costco, but the point I was trying to make was comparing my same exact situation from 4 years ago to today. The article points to shopping around and buying cheaper brands to…

You can get items at Costco that you do not need a lot of room for. Plus, you can meal prep and save time and money. It should not cost you $1500 per month to eat healthy food.

Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by UncleMeat »

darth_avocado wrote: post #140
UncleMeat wrote: post #138

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Where? At least where I live if I went to Kroger I’d spend $6 on bread, two tubs of Fage would be $14, eggs are like $3, the parsley would be like $1.50 and the rest of the veggies comes out to about $5.

And how much did that cost in 2022?

Fage and parsley are up substantially since 2020. The rest has been pretty stable, at least near me.

Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by reliabilityguy »

claaams wrote: post #66
reliabilityguy wrote: post #61

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In NYC Amazon fresh is cheaper than most of the grocery stores, except maybe some things like frozen food in Trader Joe. We simply stopped buying food in the grocery store across the street: Amazon fresh on many positions can be like 50% cheaper.

Mr Bezos thanks you for your support and sends his regards.

Who cares? I prefer to spend way less and get better quality product than in our local supermarket. If you have a bough money to overpay because you do not want to “pay Bezos” — be my guest.

Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by eudamoniac »

inigyou wrote: post #81
Avicebron wrote: post #3

They should just lead with people don't have any money to buy things because wages aren't increasing to match living expenses. It cuts back some of the fig leaves

By living expenses, you mean rent. You should just say rent. It cuts back on another fig leaf. Rent is the only part of our economy in which money is forcibly taken at gunpoint by someone who never did any work to earn it. The groceries at the grocery store are expensive because of the grocery store's rent, too.

Have you ever owned a building? It's kind of a huge pain in the ass to maintain. A huger pain in the ass to improve it. I wouldn't do it for free.

Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by eudamoniac »

hattmall wrote: post #83
entropyie wrote: post #50

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I have two kids and this is pure bollox. They'll eat what they are given if they are hungry enough. Or eat the leftovers yourself. Cook the fruit and make compote. We never throw out edible food, virtually zero waste. Just make an effort.

You are the outlier then, the situation described was spot on for all the parents I know.

Is this like the famous "my dog will only eat fresh roasted chicken" you hear from certain kinds of owners? Because I'm pretty sure when a kid is hungry enough they will eat a banana.

Source: grew up poor, there was no food waste, none

Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by hoytschermerhrn »

fragmede wrote: post #100
Avicebron wrote: post #3

They should just lead with people don't have any money to buy things because wages aren't increasing to match living expenses. It cuts back some of the fig leaves

Can't ignore the GLP-1 choice though. If a customer spends, say $200 month on a GLP-1, and saves that much by not buying groceries, that also results in a grocery slow down.

I really can’t imagine that matters at the scale of data we’re talking about here. If you can’t afford groceries, you certainly can’t afford bleeding-edge vanity drugs.

Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by darth_avocado »

za3faran wrote: post #142
darth_avocado wrote: post #114

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t have Walmart to go to but I do have a Costco. But like I mentioned in a different comment, I can’t do normal groceries there because of the space I have + how much I can consume before it all goes bad. I still shop for a lot of things at Costco, but the point I was trying to make was comparing my same exact situation from 4 years ago to today. The article points to shopping around and buying cheaper brands to…

You can get items at Costco that you do not need a lot of room for. Plus, you can meal prep and save time and money. It should not cost you $1500 per month to eat healthy food.

Again the point isn’t that there is a pathway to healthy and cheap food. The point is how much you have to do to get there. A few years ago you could shop at a single store and not meal prep to achieve that, now you do.

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Post by locopati »

beAbU wrote: post #119
adelie wrote: post #90

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hi! i live in SF. at trader joe's, these items would be priced at - $5 (bread loaf) + $5 (eggs) + $3 (yogurt) + $2 (onions) + $2 (tomatoes) + $1 (jalapeno) + $3 (parsley) = $21. i'm rounding up on eggs and bread since you might be buying a more expensive variety, and guesstimating parsley because i haven't bought it from trader joe's before. everything else is pulled from my last few shopping trips. if you're spendin…

$5 a loaf of bread is truly diabolical.

juat wait until you hear the costs of gluten-free bread

Re: The US grocery slowdown is real

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Post by halJordan »

hoytschermerhrn wrote: post #147
fragmede wrote: post #100

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Can't ignore the GLP-1 choice though. If a customer spends, say $200 month on a GLP-1, and saves that much by not buying groceries, that also results in a grocery slow down.

I really can’t imagine that matters at the scale of data we’re talking about here. If you can’t afford groceries, you certainly can’t afford bleeding-edge vanity drugs.

It's definitely a reported phenomenon that glp-1 inhibitors are crashing junk food sales. They're also not bleeding edge vanity drugs. Something like a third of Americans are on a glp-1 inhibitor and they're well covered by insurance.
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