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John Deere owners will get the right to repair equipment under FTC settlement

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Re: John Deere owners will get the right to repair equipment under FTC settlement

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HN audience prefers text to video; videos rarely do well here compared to other sites.

I ignore video posts. Why would I spend 20 minutes watching something when I can read the same in one or two minutes? I read inhumanely fast.

I didn’t realise you were committing literary war crimes! Please read more humanely! Books have rights too!

Re: John Deere owners will get the right to repair equipment under FTC settlement

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post #109

We need same for Lenovo Deere, John Dell ... Soldered RAM's, soldered SSD's lately, batteries which have by purpose just slightly different size not to be interchangeable. And for mighty HP and their printers, management needs to be put to wall and shot. There's no other solution.

and the car

Saw a video of Kia van where the presenter shows of a 3 piece bumper, a food vendor can buy a specific piece if he bashed one corner. Now car bumpers contain sensors and cameras and flush lights and a light hit can cause very expensive damage, and its brushed off with "compared to a 90s car, you can walk away from ...".

Re: John Deere owners will get the right to repair equipment under FTC settlement

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post #51

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The biggest loss to them is the right to repair stuff. They will be still making it exceptionally difficult to repair their stuff, and might even dip into exotic materials to make cheaper parts fail more often, but this is a bigger loss to them in the long run. Unfortunately, I hate that they got away with such a low AF fine.

Can someone explain to me why any farmer buys JD? It seems like $1000 oil filters is something farmers would notice and talk about in that community?

Many of the small & mid-scale U.S. farmers are choosing to buy Mahindra tractors.

Re: John Deere owners will get the right to repair equipment under FTC settlement

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It was always crazy to me that farm equipment was locked down. I almost understand yuppie buying an E-Class not working on their own car, but a farmer not able to work on his own tractor just felt so wrong. It made me wonder how John Deere was still so popular and seemingly beloved.

Brand name/heritage, and not much competition. I think there are only two US based companies left in business.

My guess is there a few German or Japanese competitors in the market as well. And buying American is all well and good until you can get a better machine for less somewhere else.

Re: John Deere owners will get the right to repair equipment under FTC settlement

#145

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HN audience prefers text to video; videos rarely do well here compared to other sites.

I ignore video posts. Why would I spend 20 minutes watching something when I can read the same in one or two minutes? I read inhumanely fast.

^This. I find it frustrating with how so many things seem to be moving to video, even simple instructions.

Re: John Deere owners will get the right to repair equipment under FTC settlement

#146

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HN audience prefers text to video; videos rarely do well here compared to other sites.

I ignore video posts. Why would I spend 20 minutes watching something when I can read the same in one or two minutes? I read inhumanely fast.

These says I just ask YouTube's AI for a summary of the video. Then I can decide whether the presenter is worth another 20 minutes of my time.

Re: John Deere owners will get the right to repair equipment under FTC settlement

#147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN audience prefers text to video; videos rarely do well here compared to other sites.

I ignore video posts. Why would I spend 20 minutes watching something when I can read the same in one or two minutes? I read inhumanely fast.

I read at talking speed so not as much to gain with text.

Re: John Deere owners will get the right to repair equipment under FTC settlement

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I ignore video posts. Why would I spend 20 minutes watching something when I can read the same in one or two minutes? I read inhumanely fast.

^This. I find it frustrating with how so many things seem to be moving to video, even simple instructions.

Monetization. It's incredibly hard to monetize text content, particularly these days where Google's search AI has all but killed clickthrough rates. Youtube however, that will reliably give you revenue share.

Re: John Deere owners will get the right to repair equipment under FTC settlement

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Not OP but I went through some data and John Deere makes 5B NET profit for the worse years. 10B for their best (only looking back 10 years). I wouldn’t be surprised these anticompetitive (as in anti “consumer”) has netted them north of 10B.

Last year was 5b net profit on 44b revenue. Attributing more than a tiny fraction of profit to the right to repair stuff is wild dreams, given the amount of physical goods they sell. Nothing in their SEC filings shows anything mentionable about such claims. It does break out actual profit by company sectors.

Why would it be a "tiny fraction" of profit in particular? If they broke even, would we say they couldn't have made any money off of these practices?

Even a tiny fraction of revenue, on the other hand, could easily reach $10B. 4% of ~40B times 12 years = $19B.

Re: John Deere owners will get the right to repair equipment under FTC settlement

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post #67

Shout out to Louis Rossmann for doing a ton of work on Right to repair. He started a website called Consumer Rights Wiki to document anti-consumer practices. https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Main_Page He's also involved with FULU Foundation which has a bounty of 25k to get Ring cameras working without Amazon's servers. https://bounties.fulu.org/bounties/ring-video-doorbells

I appreciate everything he stands for - he's on the right side of just about every issue. I just wish he could make more succinct and effective videos.

After this he should work on "Right to buy products that don't work against the user".
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