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Virginia bans sale of precise geolocation data

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Re: Virginia bans sale of precise geolocation data

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Yeah I don't understand how something like this makes any sense. Just average out the data points and you're going to get pretty much a straight line path of where and what somebody did. Maybe if there's like one data point per week per person, but even that's going to be pretty informative when averaged as to exactly where somebody lives, works, and so on.

Depends on if the independent events are uncorrelated. For example, if they had to be quantized to a grid of length 1750ft and quantized sufficiently in time as well, it might be impossible to average out since the various data points provide no new information.

This is why I posted the k-anonymity paper. A dataset is k-anonymous if using the dataset is is not possible to distinguish a given person in the dataset from k other people. Then we set a value of k we feel comfortable with and from that we can back into the areas which intuitively you would think would need to vary in size based on time of day and how many people travel through each area in the dataset.

It’s a lot of work but this is what you need to do to guarantee a given (non-zero) level of privacy. It can be done if people are serious about it.

Re: Virginia bans sale of precise geolocation data

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Hence, the alleged action of Luigi Mangione. If the law of the government doesn't catch up, eventually the law of the jungle will. But maybe not in their lifetimes. As President John Fitzgerald Kennedy said: "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable."

it remains hard to imagine a jury that would convict, fully knowing he actually killed the mass murderer. reasonable doubt might almost work againt mangione

Yup. All it will take is one juror who understands Jury Nullification [0,1], and they've got at best a hung jury mistrial...

[0] https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/jury_nullification

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification

Re: Virginia bans sale of precise geolocation data

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I dont think that is coercive. I dont think coercion has anything to do with finding the value. It is "coercive" if he puts a bullet in your brain if you buy neither option.

Legally have “sex with me or lose your job” is considered coercion without any direct threat of force. Sleep with me and I’ll pay you 10k isn’t. The difference is leveraging something else in the transaction not just payment.

By that definition a 150k car clearly isnt. It is obviously payment inside the transaction

Re: Virginia bans sale of precise geolocation data

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So let's say a Delaware incorporated company sells location data that happens to be collected in Virginia, but its sold from the corporation with no operations in Virginia. What happens? On the other hand us-east-1 is in Virginia with who knows how many payment processing servers running.

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Re: Virginia bans sale of precise geolocation data

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Yeah I don't understand how something like this makes any sense. Just average out the data points and you're going to get pretty much a straight line path of where and what somebody did. Maybe if there's like one data point per week per person, but even that's going to be pretty informative when averaged as to exactly where somebody lives, works, and so on.

I assume this depends if 1750ft means the location you can derive from the data (together with other data) or the precision of the individual data point

its the definition of precise geolocation data in the va code: https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title59.1/chapter53/sect...

Re: Virginia bans sale of precise geolocation data

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In Europe, who owns the copyright of a photograph? The subject or the photographer?

If a company writes down my personal information do they now own it?

I believe that the Bern convention stipulates that they now own that particular expression (e.g. formatting) of your personal information.

Check before relying on that.

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