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Re: A deadly fungus that can infect cats and people is spreading

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Post by robocat »

ahartmetz wrote: post #140
robocat wrote: post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> like ibuprofen Your conclusion is based on your misunderstanding: perhaps take more care in future, and be especially careful if sharing your misinformation. After absorption into the bloodstream, ibuprofen indirectly reduces the prostaglandins that normally protect the stomach lining crushing ibuprofen can make local irritation more intense and quicker, but this is usually not the main driver of ulcers And sorry i…

To go further on this tangent, just mentioning it because it's rather useful: Studies show that vitamin C protects the stomach lining from stomach acid - unclear why exactly, but clear that it does. There are pills that combine the two, but you can also just buy some vitamin C and take it it with the pills. Like all water-soluble vitamins, you can't really overdose: the excess is excreted.

And you've just done the same mistake?

  Taking too much vitamin C [acidic] can cause side effects, including: Upset stomach, vomiting and loose stools. Heartburn. Stomach cramps or bloating.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements-vitamin-c/art-2...

I mean what you've said is interesting (albeit irrelevant to ibuprofen given the pathway).

Re: A deadly fungus that can infect cats and people is spreading

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Post by userulluipeste »

giardini wrote: post #136
userulluipeste wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are lucky that mass epidemics that plagued humans so far didn't affect the brain. Affections like rabies, that require individuals biting each other, and which are the inspirational source of all those zombie fantasies, do not count. That is an attack vector easy to spot and manage. The scary scenario is the one like with this Sporothrix Brasiliensis fungus, which can spread by merely "sneezing out the infectious…

userulluipeste says "Affections like rabies" and "Any kind of pandemic is scary by the sheer magnitude of its reach, but one that would affect the brain? That would be another level of scary." "Affections"? Are you talking about socialism or Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) perhaps?

Now, after you quoted me, I see that "affection" in the medical sense is considered archaic: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/affection#English

I'll keep this in mind, thank you.

As for your question, I have little to do with USA politics, which includes holding little to no attitude towards POTUS, and I very much hope for situation to stay that way. Prudence compels me to refrain from saying anything more on the subject.

Re: A deadly fungus that can infect cats and people is spreading

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Post by ahartmetz »

robocat wrote: post #141
ahartmetz wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To go further on this tangent, just mentioning it because it's rather useful: Studies show that vitamin C protects the stomach lining from stomach acid - unclear why exactly, but clear that it does. There are pills that combine the two, but you can also just buy some vitamin C and take it it with the pills. Like all water-soluble vitamins, you can't really overdose: the excess is excreted.

And you've just done the same mistake? Taking too much vitamin C [acidic] can cause side effects, including: Upset stomach, vomiting and loose stools. Heartburn. Stomach cramps or bloating. https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements-vitamin-c/art-2... I mean what you've said is interesting (albeit irrelevant to ibuprofen given the pathway).

OK, so you can overdose and that is important to know - but a few hundred mg fortunately won't do it. The article recommends against daily use of 2,000+ mg.

Re: A deadly fungus that can infect cats and people is spreading

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Post by nDRDY »

greenavocado wrote: post #86
nDRDY wrote: post #68

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"AI Overview" blithely tells me HOCL can be easily made from the electrolysis of salt water. Looking even a little deeper (Wikipedia) confirms that chlorine chemistry, especially when combined with electrolysis, is very complex, and it's hard to know if you're making the right thing. FWIW every sensible electrolysis-based DIY project has dire warnings about electrolysing solutions of common salt.

> it's hard to know if you're making the right thing In this case, it's not complicated

Please don't tell me you're recommending that people smell their DIY chlorine chemistry to determine what they've made?

Re: A deadly fungus that can infect cats and people is spreading

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Post by aa-jv »

Guthwine wrote: post #56
aa-jv wrote: post #40

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Pets are slaves. Stop trying to own emotions.

Genuinely curious - are sheep kept for their wool also slaves in your opinion?

Yes, for sure. Any animal kept from its natural environment and harvested for its material resources is a slave.

Doesn't matter if humans thing they're cute, tasty, or necessary. We literally enslave other living beings in order to feel good about ourselves.

Pets are emotional slaves. People keep them because of the emotional value they provide to their lifestyles.

Re: A deadly fungus that can infect cats and people is spreading

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Post by jsiepkes »

georgemcbay wrote: post #128
sillystuff wrote: post #109

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Some drugs are available online / locally through compounding pharmacies as transdermal creams that you apply to the inner surface of the cat's ear. From a quick search, it looks like cerenia is available in this form. Your last sentence, "[pilling cat] (without drama) is by putting it deep into his mouth" must mean you have a very chill cat [emphasis mine].

Can confirm, transdermal maropitant (cerenia) worked very well for my cat who was dealing with both CKD and IBD in her later years (she passed away in December). I bought it off of Chewy, but there are other places that compound it into a transdermal as well. > Your last sentence, "[pilling cat] (without drama) is by putting it deep into his mouth" must mean you have a very chill cat [emphasis mine]. I'm not the pers…

> Some drugs are available online / locally through compounding pharmacies as transdermal creams that you apply to the inner surface of the cat's ear.

> Can confirm, transdermal maropitant (cerenia) worked very well for my cat who was dealing with both CKD and IBD in her later years (she passed away in December).

Thank you both for the tip! I'm going to look in to that.

Sorry to hear your cat passed away :(

> Luckily my cat was totally non-aggressive, so when it came time to take pills she would try to evade, but never attack, but she was pretty good at undulating her tongue to try to swat pills out.

Exact same thing here. The cat is totally relaxed, no biting, clawing, etc. Only tries to "go in reverse". Which doesn't help him, since I'm sitting behind him. But he has gotten good at trying to swat pills out of his mouth with his tongue. But with a piller, it is do-able.

Re: A deadly fungus that can infect cats and people is spreading

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Post by AlexeyBelov »

giardini wrote: post #136
userulluipeste wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are lucky that mass epidemics that plagued humans so far didn't affect the brain. Affections like rabies, that require individuals biting each other, and which are the inspirational source of all those zombie fantasies, do not count. That is an attack vector easy to spot and manage. The scary scenario is the one like with this Sporothrix Brasiliensis fungus, which can spread by merely "sneezing out the infectious…

userulluipeste says "Affections like rabies" and "Any kind of pandemic is scary by the sheer magnitude of its reach, but one that would affect the brain? That would be another level of scary." "Affections"? Are you talking about socialism or Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) perhaps?

I think you're "affected". Why would you bring Trump into this discussion?

UPD: reading your other comments confirms TDS.. I'm sorry.

Re: A deadly fungus that can infect cats and people is spreading

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Post by greenavocado »

nDRDY wrote: post #145
greenavocado wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's hard to know if you're making the right thing In this case, it's not complicated

Please don't tell me you're recommending that people smell their DIY chlorine chemistry to determine what they've made?

There is no problem at 200 ppm. Skill issue

Re: A deadly fungus that can infect cats and people is spreading

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Post by Guthwine »

aa-jv wrote: post #146
Guthwine wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Genuinely curious - are sheep kept for their wool also slaves in your opinion?

Yes, for sure. Any animal kept from its natural environment and harvested for its material resources is a slave. Doesn't matter if humans thing they're cute, tasty, or necessary. We literally enslave other living beings in order to feel good about ourselves. Pets are emotional slaves. People keep them because of the emotional value they provide to their lifestyles.

In the past, though, dogs (domesticated wolves, however you want to look at it) were more akin to 'hunting partners', wouldn't you say? But for you the line is crossed when we start keeping them in kennels/breeding them, I guess?
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