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The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy

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Re: The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy

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Anthropic is going through the classic Ideological Resistance phase where they fight with the government on principles, that every major tech company also went through. Google, Facebook, Apple, Reddit, Microsoft (especially Microsoft) all had this phase. Then the companies realize fighting the US government is a lot of effort, expensive and creates a lot of drama, and it's easier to reach a mutual understanding.

They should’ve kept their distance from the government as long as they could don’t volunteer to be helpful. Don’t volunteer to go meet with politicians keep as low profile as you can for as long as you can. Nothing good comes with associating with them. Have a legal department trained to be the buffer between you and the government any contact any questions goes through them and since you’re paying them a ton of mone…

You think their competitors, even without malice, wouldn't have put them in the same predicament if they were quiet?

The companies willing to collaborate would have brought light to the issues.

Re: The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy

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To be fair, most of those companies had those phases with administrations that were a lot less petty than the current one.

You mean like when the Obama administration wasn't petty and didn't jail a journalist for not revealing sources on a story with no real importance and merit? Every administration is made of people. People are petty. This is why the government should be as big as necessary and no bigger.

Good old whataboutism, obviously any administration that does at least one bad thing is equally corrupt. There's no possible reason to distinguish between how corrupt two different corrupt actions are or how many of them there are beyond a single one, right?

Re: The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy

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I said this precisely because I am Korean and have been working in the IT industry right here in Korea. How many Chinese people do you think work at Naver, Kakao, Carrot, and Baemin in Korea? (Coupang might be an exception. I have often heard colleagues from Coupang badmouth the Chinese people there.) I have never worked in the Bay Area, and I only know about the US software industry through this site, but it is cert…

> Just as there are many young people on MAGA, there are also many young Koreans who are caught up in right-wing conspiracy theories. You're literally talking to one. Search for any thread remotely related to Korean companies or politics in the last month and you'll see this user in the comments spouting classic conspiracy theories. Of course never replying when called out, as on HN we luckily have people like you an…

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Re: The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy

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I said this precisely because I am Korean and have been working in the IT industry right here in Korea. How many Chinese people do you think work at Naver, Kakao, Carrot, and Baemin in Korea? (Coupang might be an exception. I have often heard colleagues from Coupang badmouth the Chinese people there.) I have never worked in the Bay Area, and I only know about the US software industry through this site, but it is cert…

> Just as there are many young people on MAGA, there are also many young Koreans who are caught up in right-wing conspiracy theories. You're literally talking to one. Search for any thread remotely related to Korean companies or politics in the last month and you'll see this user in the comments spouting classic conspiracy theories. Of course never replying when called out, as on HN we luckily have people like you an…

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Re: The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy

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I said this precisely because I am Korean and have been working in the IT industry right here in Korea. How many Chinese people do you think work at Naver, Kakao, Carrot, and Baemin in Korea? (Coupang might be an exception. I have often heard colleagues from Coupang badmouth the Chinese people there.) I have never worked in the Bay Area, and I only know about the US software industry through this site, but it is cert…

> Just as there are many young people on MAGA, there are also many young Koreans who are caught up in right-wing conspiracy theories. You're literally talking to one. Search for any thread remotely related to Korean companies or politics in the last month and you'll see this user in the comments spouting classic conspiracy theories. Of course never replying when called out, as on HN we luckily have people like you an…

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Re: The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy

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They are searching for a headline that will attract clicks. Everyone knows nothing this administration does is genuine, but pretending there is a controversy related to whether or not it could be has been a money pump for the last decade.

I dont get this at all...how does the administration or people within it get a "money pump" from headlines?

The administration usually does it through insider trading, but I was referring to the people who write the headlines, which are the news and media companies.

Re: The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy

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I said this precisely because I am Korean and have been working in the IT industry right here in Korea. How many Chinese people do you think work at Naver, Kakao, Carrot, and Baemin in Korea? (Coupang might be an exception. I have often heard colleagues from Coupang badmouth the Chinese people there.) I have never worked in the Bay Area, and I only know about the US software industry through this site, but it is cert…

i'm glad you're enjoying the vibe at your office, but counting the number of Chinese devs sitting next to you in the cafeteria is compltely ireelevant and doesn't back up any of your claims. you keep trying to shoehorn American MAGA culture war talking points into this, which is genuinely baffling if you actually work in Korean tech right now. i'll list the actual instances (many i have not covered here theres too mu…

> So let me ask again, are you Korean Korean or are you of Chinese descent identifying as Korean?

> i find your words and motivations highly suspicious because ive never ever seen a korean defend china to the lengths you have which made me think you are probably not a real korean-korean.

Yes, I am a Korean who is absolutely fed up with this kind of racist rhetoric. I am not defending China. I simply dislike right-wing conspiracy theorists like you.

> Koreans are deeply suspicious of Chinese especially those that claim Korean identity due to their loyalty is in question (and its not hard to see why)

That simply means that you are surrounded by people just like yourself. In fact, it is highly likely because if you are part of the Korean cultural sphere in the U.S., you are highly likely to attend a Korean church, and that is where election conspiracy theorists go around holding lecture tours.

> nobody is arguing that ccp operatives are infiltrating the middle man layer of baemin to sabotage food deliveries.

Baemin is one of the most coveted IT companies in Korea (however actually German company bought them and still operates. Now is Germany infiltrating into Korean economy?). It certainly seems you lack knowledge of the Korean economy.

> domestically chinese pseculators have made real estate unaffordable and filling university dorm rooms meant for koreans while they weather the heat and humidity in tiny goshiwons.

Those Chinese people are the ones living in cheap flats on the upper floor of a lamb skewer shop in Daerim-dong. [0] Among the young Koreans I know, there is no one who is angry about not being able to buy a house in such a place. And blame the university authorities for not building enough dormitories. Are you saying that the mere fact that Chinese international students are coming is the problem?

You could talk endlessly about the impact China is having on the Korean capital market. This is because it has actually happened, and it continues to happen. China's economy is the second largest in the world, while Korea's is only one-tenth the size. Naturally, it is bound to have an impact. As I said, investing in the capital market and 'intertwined/injected into all facet of south korean society' are completely different things. Perhaps you just think that the very existence of Chinese people and Chinese culture is 'infiltration'. Just like the right-wingers in Japan who get angry about the Zainichi shadow government simply because Korean is written on subway station signs.

Anyway, you interrogated me by asking, "So, are you Chinese?" Looking at this, it seems that whatever I say would be meaningless, and it has been very clearly revealed to the sane HN users what kind of person you are.

[0]https://www.hankyung.com/article/202510077522i

Re: The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy

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Microsoft had it worse because Gates was a megalomaniac who was so self-absorbed he didn't understand he was supposed to bribe via "donations". Tech companies all learned the same as other sectors; it's more profitable to have lobbyists greasing the wheels of corrupt politicians from the get go, and "donate" to their success for a lifetime of consultation and quid pro quo. This is also why all virtues signaled by cor…

This is the first time I have seen refusing to pay bribes framed as a moral failing and character flaw. Perhaps it's not that he "didn't understand he was supposed to bribe" but rather that he thought that system was bad and antiquated and that he was taking a principled stand for the modern (of the time) technology industry to move away from those historical norms. It didn't work, but he's not bad for trying.

I find it simultaneously amusing and depressing that you took my comment as a promotion of bribery, rather than a stark commentary on the sytemic corruption that has destroyed Americas democracy, and is destroying liberal democracies worldwide.

How the system has self-corrected to empower the most greedy and sociopathic of behaviours, across all private and public institutions, the entire time; so much so that the average person can't even comprehend the root causes, or any solution beyond a simple band-aid non-solution.

Re: The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy

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You mean like when the Obama administration wasn't petty and didn't jail a journalist for not revealing sources on a story with no real importance and merit? Every administration is made of people. People are petty. This is why the government should be as big as necessary and no bigger.

Good old whataboutism, obviously any administration that does at least one bad thing is equally corrupt. There's no possible reason to distinguish between how corrupt two different corrupt actions are or how many of them there are beyond a single one, right?

It’s possible, but it’s quite obvious at this point that large part of the population isn’t capable to do this distinction.

Re: The Korean telecom giant at the center of Anthropic's Mythos controversy

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> it almost cost them their company. Boy, they put on a great show. I wonder if this Google antitrust thing is going to end up a similar nothing-burger due to their deep protection.

Boy, they put on a great show. If you think that's how it was perceived in Redmond, you don't know anyone there.

See this is the issue with engineers, they think they are fighting with the government while the C-Suite wine and dine with them instead. Just like all the engineers at Google who actually bought into the whole "Don't do evil" while building the "death star" of destruction of personal information.

There is no good corporation, and no matter how much the people inside the company thing they are influencing the corporate decisions, they are just number on a spreadsheet. If they all quit tomorrow, yes it would be troublesome for the company for a bit, but then they would find replacements and thats it. You as an employee only have one power at the corporation: Dont work there. Thats it, everything else is just for show. Sure you can pick the JS framework that the company will use; thats about as much corporate value as the one that picks the toilet paper in the bathrooms.

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