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TinyWind: A pixel pirate sailing game with real wind physics (380k+ kms sailed)

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Re: TinyWind: A pixel pirate sailing game with real wind physics (380k+ kms sailed)

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Ugh, that's extremely disappointing. That's exactly the sort of thing I expected from a game touting 'real wind physics'. Glad I know not to waste any time on it now, expecting it to be something it isn't.

It's still quite fun. The games industry figured out long ago that realism and fun are often diametrically opposed.

If someone says they will bring me steak, but it tastes like ice cream, I can still be annoyed, even if I like ice cream.

Re: TinyWind: A pixel pirate sailing game with real wind physics (380k+ kms sailed)

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post #32

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Lmk if space to fire and shift for map makes more sense I wanted it to feel natural for qwerty and arrow key controls, the space felt a little clunky with arrow keys.

Shift has the problem of bringing up windows sticky keys dialog box if you tap it too fast. Spacebar was my instinct for fire key as well. For map it would be 'M'. Whichever you choose, please consider displaying the controls inside the game, at least during the setup screen, don't make the user search for controls in the wiki. :) Also the hp bar below the minimap is a bit weird, would expect it the same as enemy shi…

You can use this reg edit to disable all sticky keys

https://github.com/ChoGGi/RegistryTweaks/blob/master/Tweaks/...

Re: TinyWind: A pixel pirate sailing game with real wind physics (380k+ kms sailed)

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post #119

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It's still quite fun. The games industry figured out long ago that realism and fun are often diametrically opposed.

As a rule, combat in game does not interest me.

Wow you should really demand your money back!

Re: TinyWind: A pixel pirate sailing game with real wind physics (380k+ kms sailed)

#146
post #92

There's a vague correlation between wind direction and sailing speed, but there's nothing real here. The mechanics of sailing upwind, downwind, or the cost of tacking are interesting mechanics that aren't explored here whatsoever. The dead angle on a ship with a square rig should be massive. This ship goes upwind like it has a motor.

Thanks for checking out the game! The correlation isn’t that vague it’s actually explicitly defined here: https://tinywind.io/wiki/sailing#point-of-sail

Always trying to find a balance of realism vs arcade feel on the gameplay. Let me know how you would handle sailing upwind/downwind instead, always love more suggestions!

Re: TinyWind: A pixel pirate sailing game with real wind physics (380k+ kms sailed)

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post #132

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I did that simply for arcadeyness and feel but I’m not married to it at all Giving the ship a slight constant forward moment felt nice and forgiving when testing, and user still has to tack back and forth to get meaningful enough speed to strafe a ship. But I’m definitely open to sliding the realism scale here

I would advise not putting "real wind physics" in the headline when that is not a promise you can deliver on. There's nothing wrong with arcade, but when you advertise "real physics" people like me are going to expect, well, "real physics".

Hi Tyler, realism and arcade-feel doesn’t have to be a binary thing.

My big effort has been finding tasteful compromises to keep a “real” feel but still simple enough to not be frustrating and put away the game. Hope this helps!

https://tinywind.io/wiki/sailing#point-of-sail

Re: TinyWind: A pixel pirate sailing game with real wind physics (380k+ kms sailed)

#148
post #92

There's a vague correlation between wind direction and sailing speed, but there's nothing real here. The mechanics of sailing upwind, downwind, or the cost of tacking are interesting mechanics that aren't explored here whatsoever. The dead angle on a ship with a square rig should be massive. This ship goes upwind like it has a motor.

That might be too realistic that it’s not fun. Maybe the game needs a simulation mode

Re: TinyWind: A pixel pirate sailing game with real wind physics (380k+ kms sailed)

#149
post #132

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I would advise not putting "real wind physics" in the headline when that is not a promise you can deliver on. There's nothing wrong with arcade, but when you advertise "real physics" people like me are going to expect, well, "real physics".

Hi Tyler, realism and arcade-feel doesn’t have to be a binary thing. My big effort has been finding tasteful compromises to keep a “real” feel but still simple enough to not be frustrating and put away the game. Hope this helps! https://tinywind.io/wiki/sailing#point-of-sail

When you can sail. Square rigger directly into the wind, that’s 100% arcade.

You are of course free to make your game however you want, but false advertising doesn’t help anyone.

Re: TinyWind: A pixel pirate sailing game with real wind physics (380k+ kms sailed)

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a middle approach could be a trainer mode where you can say your desired direction of travel and the game gives you a suggestion of heading + trim. think like the driving line in racing sims, it doesn't brake for you but it helps you develop intuition of what to do when. a oldtimey map line drawn on the ocean to show where when to tack at what angle would be so nice. especially for the longer hops between islands.

This is an amazing idea, definitely going to explore this! It could even prompt you to cut upwind and dive ships effectively, there could be a lot of depth here

hmm yeah, take that one step farther and you have your get on the ocean fast tutorial level.. go from point a to point b. fight one ship. capture a small island. then the map opens up an you are just in the first level. ready to take on the rest. it also solves the beginner problem where if you cant kill three ships in one health bar you cant capture the island to heal and you can get stuck roaming the seas looking for places to heal. with a small (but a little far away) starter island you could retreat to heal and try again.

while i have you... what does the bounty hunters thing do? i see it pop up but then nothing really happens. i keep expecting like 5 ships to try and hunt me down but nada.

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