New Referendum Would Flip Brexit Result 10 Years On, Poll Finds

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>"Mass immigration is your punishment for the British Empire" has a certain ideological appeal. But if you're a British person, you don't care about that. What matters is whether you'd rather live in London as it was in 2000 or London today. And I think the answer to that is obvious if your judgment isn't compromised. My parents went to visit London a year or two ago, and my mom was shocked by the decline in public order and standards, the ghettos, etc. This is a woman who lived in Bangladesh most of her life, and she came back telling me about the decline of London.

I walk around outside my home in the very heart of London: the street is full of Rolls Royces, pretty Russian and Ukrainian girls walk around carrying their Graff jewels and Kelly bags. Men still wear watches worth hundreds of thousands despite what the FT style section says.

What ghetto? Where is it? Everybody here is as rich as Croesus and very much a part of the same global jet set culture.

> Why is it okay for one but not the other? Where does this double standard come from ?

Because in Japan AIUI they haven't been infiltrated by people pushing narratives that being eg White British is inherently racist, that to not open your borders to one and all is racism and xenophobia (you can see lots of examples of such people in the post about the Swiss referendum on the 10M population limit), which they do in order to gain for them and their communities.

The existing minority populations know they can abuse our good nature, our placidity, our leftist politicians, and even the English language in order to gain, and to position themselves as continuous victims. Some feminists do the same. The idea that the whole of the UK is full of angry white supremacist racists is the kind of propaganda I allude to (it's funny how many US folk here fall for it).

(I am British, lived here all my life, live in a county with many areas of significant minority populations, and just old enough to have observed plenty of change in England)

london is one place in the whole of the uk. might be the big stonking capital city, but it is definitely not representative of the whole of the UK.

late edit copypasta stat from sibling reply with actual national census data instead of cherry picking from the obvious culturally diverse capital city

> "White" remained the largest high-level ethnic group in England and Wales; 81.7% (48.7 million) of usual residents identified this way in 2021, a decrease from 86.0% (48.2 million) in 2011.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/cultural...

80% is a long way off from 50%. and it took 10 years to drop by 5ish percent. in something like 50-60 years us white british people can start moaning about becoming a minority (assuming certain things on average stay the same, or average out over the 50-60 years).

as per sibling comment, your headline stats are cherry picking two things that are not representative of the whole of the uk.

university of manchester is a university, and since the cameron/clegg tuition fee change it was more profitable to attract international students. that’s not representative of the wider population, data is skewed. so you’re cherry picking some stats that are not representative there.

london, well it’s lahndahn. it’s in no way representative of the rest of the uk. remember how people complain about london centric decisions made that have no relation to where they live? because lahndahn is not representative of the rest of the country. when i go home to oxfordshire i don’t get confused with where i am because oxfordshire is obviously not the same place as lahdahn.

the projections are just projections and judging from the domain name aren’t from anywhere official. so i’ll gloss over them as i cba.

the one national statistic you’ve found - the a 4% share change from 69% ish to 64% over five years for school pupils, this is not white british people becoming a minority. it is a very long way to go until we’re under 50% in that one statistic.

here a better statistic from the 2021 census, actually tracking national level ethnicity

> “White" remained the largest high-level ethnic group in England and Wales; 81.7% (48.7 million) of usual residents identified this way in 2021, a decrease from 86.0% (48.2 million) in 2011.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/cultural...

80% is a long way off from 50%.

i know it makes you all scared and insecure inside. but don’t forgot, these other people are just that. other people. the only scary thing about them is whatever is running through your own mind, or whatever bs people are spouting on social media. in reality, they’re not that scary actually. usually they’re really lovely humans. try speaking to some of them some time.