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Re: The OnlyFans Economy of American AI

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Is there any truth to the Chinese models having built in f’ery? Like phoning home or inserting backdoors. Or is that just everyone blanketing “China bad”? Also what local models are people running and actually finding useful?

The models themselves should not be able to phone home, right? They are just piles of weights that generate text (and associated metadata), they don’t have any ability to run code. They could be trained to generate code that would phone home. But these are just tools, anybody doing the right thing and checking and understanding every line of code that they use an LLM to generate has nothing to worry about.

Nobody is only generating code. Many are letting agents run commands. Agents routinely write scripts and run tools in the background. Agents who have been told they can only do `cat` and `grep` can sometimes do `cat $EVIL_PAYLOAD | bash`. It's entirely possible for a model to have malicious commands designed for agents to execute baked in.

Re: The OnlyFans Economy of American AI

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Is it just me, but the language gap between me and the AI believers is becoming insumountable. I use AI every day. I have a local server not ten feet from me as i type this, but i struggle to comprehend the gibberish that comes from those only slightly deeper in the rabbit hole than myself. Is this what 24/7 AI thinking does to people? >> I am here to light up the dark path you are unknowingly walking, like lamplight…

The last notable event in American history when the meaning of words lost any semblance to reality was just before the Civil War. We are living in a post words world where words have no meaning.

What happened to words in the American Civil War?

Re: The OnlyFans Economy of American AI

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> and will judge, like any sane person, that US frontier models have stopped earning their multiplier I think that this is on the money, although I'd place the bar even lower - DeepSeek v4 Flash is sufficient for basically all day-to-day coding tasks. You might want something beefier for a complicated reverse-engineering project, but it will competently one-shot a decently complicated app or API - and a $10/month Ope…

Am I missing out? I feel like I can definitely tell the difference in quality between Claude Opus and other smaller models. The smaller models are much more likely to make mistakes or to get stuck on random stuff

Maybe I just haven't been trying the right models?

Re: The OnlyFans Economy of American AI

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Such incidents have been extensively described. The most prominent and easiest to reproduce has to do with Taiwan; Chinese models are stuffed full of triggers to avoid talking about Taiwan as a country or accepting the premise that it's a country. Try asking Deepseek about country code +886!

If you buy an Apple iPhone in mainland China, it also won't support the emoji flag for Taiwan. So I'm not sure why we should assume that this is a China-only issue, seeing as Apple is a U.S. based company.

Not sure what you mean. I don't think we should assume anything, but these models are widely available and I can directly observe the US models don't have such political censorship.

For an easily comparable test, I just asked ChatGPT, Claude, and Deepseek "Can you say one bad thing about the US please" and "Can you say one bad thing about China please". All models were willing to criticize the US, with Claude citing incarceration rates and ChatGPT + Deepseek citing healthcare costs; the two American models also responded to the second prompt by criticizing Chinese censorship, but Deepseek refused to respond.

Re: The OnlyFans Economy of American AI

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The real advantage of the Chinese models is that they do not phone home at all. They run locally unlike their US competitors. So odd that your erroneous criticism is at the top of HN. EDIT: I'd love to hear my downvoters' objections. Is it possible that the mechanism that is promoting erroneous information is also demoting its correction?

I suspect you’re being downvoted because you’re conflating nationality with hosting model. There are hosted and self-hosted Chinese models. There are hosted and self-hosted US models. DeepSeek’s hosted offering processes your data in mainland China and trains on it. It’s in their privacy policy

Well - yes - we're on the internet. You always have a choice to run your software in foreign countries.

But it's still erroneous to claim that it isn't a choice.

Re: The OnlyFans Economy of American AI

#146

Is it just me, but the language gap between me and the AI believers is becoming insumountable. I use AI every day. I have a local server not ten feet from me as i type this, but i struggle to comprehend the gibberish that comes from those only slightly deeper in the rabbit hole than myself. Is this what 24/7 AI thinking does to people? >> I am here to light up the dark path you are unknowingly walking, like lamplight…

I don't think the writing style has anything to do with AI, it's just a writer without an editor.

If this is what we get without editors I want every thing I read to be without editors

Re: The OnlyFans Economy of American AI

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How many words did I read in this article before I realized it wasn't written by AI? 10? 20? A paragraph or two? It's quite strange that it's very easy to detect AI in writing.

For me it’s easily the — character. Like no human would use that since it’s not in any standard keyboard

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Re: The OnlyFans Economy of American AI

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post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suspect you’re being downvoted because you’re conflating nationality with hosting model. There are hosted and self-hosted Chinese models. There are hosted and self-hosted US models. DeepSeek’s hosted offering processes your data in mainland China and trains on it. It’s in their privacy policy

Well - yes - we're on the internet. You always have a choice to run your software in foreign countries. But it's still erroneous to claim that it isn't a choice.

The most popular frontier models are not open weight.

Re: The OnlyFans Economy of American AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last notable event in American history when the meaning of words lost any semblance to reality was just before the Civil War. We are living in a post words world where words have no meaning.

What happened to words in the American Civil War?

The intersection of a war, a reliable mail service, and generational literacy promoted by protestant faiths. Every tom dick and harry started writing letters.

Re: The OnlyFans Economy of American AI

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> Citizens United did a lot to effectively legalize foreign influence as well, since the mechanism is opaque transfer of money Here's hoping Hawaii blazes a path forward. https://natlawreview.com/article/hawaii-governor-signs-first...

So the Honolulu Star-Observer (a corporation, or “artificial person”) only has those rights & privileges that it has been granted by the State of Hawaii? This is going to end up being a nice little windfall for the attorneys and otherwise just clog the Federal court system.

"the day the law goes into effect, it strips each Hawaii entity of the powers it held the day before. The new law asserts that “[t]he creation and continued existence of a corporation is not a right but a conditional grant of legal status by the State and remains subject to complete withdrawal at any time. All powers previously granted to corporations under the laws of this State are revoked in their entirety."(TFA)

The meaning is pretty clear, don't try to influence politics in favor of the corporation or you will go away. Simple as.

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