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Re: The desperation of NYTimes

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Post by robinhood »

specproc wrote: post #51
halapro wrote: post #33

This is why I love Apple's Hide My Email. I use it ALL the time and the unsubscribe button is always there. It's not the most polished interface, but it works perfectly. Also, for any subscription for which I don't use HME, I will immediately "mark as spam" any minimally-spammy email I get. The ones described in the article would be insta-marked due to the lack of Unsubscribe button.

Firefox relay also good for this sort of thing.

And 1password which works fantastically with Fastmail with their Masked emails feature.

Re: The desperation of NYTimes

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Post by hparadiz »

mbreese wrote: post #37
hparadiz wrote: post #2

I just installed Brother's app from the Apple store. Immediately met with 4 popups that you can not close until you press the completely fake "maybe next time" prompt only to find out the program doesn't even support feed scanning on my specific printer. Imagine being a sysadmin that has to install this thing over and over on multiple machines. If you ever wonder why your app has a 1.7 star rating on the app store lo…

I don't think I've ever installed a printer's app on my Mac. I have a reflex against it. The Mac has decent support for printers and scanners built-in, so did you need an App at all? That's one thing that bugs me about hardware companies -- they all want you to install their app to monitor/configure/bedazzle their hardware. But really, it probably is just going to work anyway. And a printer or a mouse shouldn't need…

I also despise these apps but wanted to see if it had the automatic feed feature. This printer it turns out can fax using the automatic feed but can't scan. Which is fine but they had the opportunity to upsell me on a new printer with that feature but instead failed miserably.

Re: The desperation of NYTimes

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Post by xeeeeeeeeeeenu »

epistasis wrote: post #3

NYTimes is predatory on subscriptions. Over my long lifetime I've subscribed twice, and regretted it both times with intensity. Any place that allows easy instantaneous subscription by a simple web form, but makes you call and talk to a person during limited business hours for cancellation , is a toxic place. I've been told they have stopped this predatory practice due to some newly passed laws or something, but they…

That's why it's best not to give companies your credit card number. If you subscribe through PayPal, you can cancel through PayPal.

Re: The desperation of NYTimes

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Post by devilbunny »

no_no_no_yes wrote: post #5
epistasis wrote: post #3

NYTimes is predatory on subscriptions. Over my long lifetime I've subscribed twice, and regretted it both times with intensity. Any place that allows easy instantaneous subscription by a simple web form, but makes you call and talk to a person during limited business hours for cancellation , is a toxic place. I've been told they have stopped this predatory practice due to some newly passed laws or something, but they…

You can subscribe with your library card and get access to all NYTimes (games/crosswords too). One caveat is the subscription "rental" is for only a 3 day period, so you have "renew" your subscription every 3 days. This only takes 2 clicks though. For San Francisco public library: https://ezproxy.sfpl.org/login/nyt .

Assuming you have a public library that offers these things, of course. Much like people talking about how great Libby is; you can get it through my library, but the selection is extremely limited. And very few libraries offer a good set of options, even for a substantial fee, to non-locals.

I can’t promise I would pay $300/yr to access a great public library, but I would like the option to try it.

My in-laws have a decent (not great, but decent) one in their city, and for sure they will never use it, but they aren’t going to drag the documentation up there and get cards just for me.

Re: The desperation of NYTimes

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Post by mherkender »

Terr_ wrote: post #60
mherkender wrote: post #44

If being user-hostile in tech created real consequences, Facebook would've shuttered 15 years ago. Sad to say but I'm guessing this is an effective strategy.

> Facebook would've Given how the "hostility" is often more than just ugly-UI, and aspects like monopolies, surveillance, and billing you for services you don't want, I think this is relevant: > I've written before about the futility of "voting with your wallet." [...] Shopping isn't politics. Politics are politics, and shopping is shopping. [...] No matter how indie your coffee, books and social media, your consumpt…

I think that's true, but I am still frustrated with people who continue to use services that are openly hostile to them.

Re: The desperation of NYTimes

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Post by dualvariable »

epistasis wrote: post #133
spelk wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

.I urge everyone reading to unsubscribe instantaneously from the NYTimes for their business practices. Do not do business with unethical companies. You are not wrong for thinking that, but I encourage people to consider that generally the business and editorial areas are largely independent of each other because of the value of editorial independence in case they think that the lack of ethics applies to their journal…

Well I would also encourage people to unsubscribe for their editorial practices, and this was the incident that prompted my second unsubscription: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jun/05/new-york-times... They have predilection for defense of elites, including Trump, and have not challenged his corruption to the degree that they have challenged, say Clinton's accusations of corruption. Their defense of the elit…

I haven't had a NYTimes subscription since around 1991.

This thread has a whole bunch of Charlie Browns in it who are "shocked, shocked" to find that Lucy has pulled away the football once again...

Re: The desperation of NYTimes

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Post by J_Shelby_J »

mrngld wrote: post #120

I just want WSJ/The Economist/AP-etc tier journalism/news reporting that I can subscribe to and get a simple, full-text no-ads RSS feed in return for that subscription. Apparently that's too much to ask. I think ArsTechnica does that, if that publication is your jam, but I'm not aware of any general news outlet that does. Would love to be proven wrong, though.

I don’t think that will ever be possible. Remember that every other news source is mostly just sourcing content from those legacy media outlets stories. So if they offered it as an open API or one that was easy to scrape, they’d be killing their own business.

They all have APIs of course, but you have to contact sales for what I’m sure is a very expensive negotiation. I believe that’s what news aggregators like Apple News and ground news does.

But yeah, it sucks. AP is outstanding. Their push notifications are all the mainstream news anyone really needs for timely updates. But their App is awful once you click on those notifications.

Re: The desperation of NYTimes

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Post by queenkjuul »

Everybody is obnoxious about emails now. I got "invited to complete a survey about my applicant experience" FROM A COMPANY THAT GHOSTED ME AFTER INTERVIEWS! fuck them!

I'm going to a baseball game soon. Naturally, 3 survey links, none with unsubscribe, because naturally i want a relationship with the team, their facilities, and their ticket vendor, naturally.

Email was a mistake, frankly.

Re: The desperation of NYTimes

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Post by atmosx »

dieselgate wrote: post #25
ProjectArcturis wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

FYI you can get Money Stuff delivered by email without a Bloomberg subscription.

Thanks for that! I have been on Levine's website recently and for some reason thought they may deviate in content or something. But will try it out. It's a daily newsletter which is kind of high volume for me (which is why I hadn't subscribed prior) but will check it out. I actually may have been sub'd previously and had to check out because the push-model was slightly too much; would kind of prefer a pull model.

For anyone else interested, here’s the link to the newsletter: https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/authors/ARbTQlRLRjE/matthe...

Re: The desperation of NYTimes

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Post by J_Shelby_J »

superxpro12 wrote: post #11

Im curious what the alternatives are the author considers to be acceptable? From what I understand, the press is under assault from all sides... Internet has killed paper subs, political influence is attacking them... like what do you expect them to do?

NYT is doing great though. It’s actually doing so well it’s in danger of becoming a monopoly.
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