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Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

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post #72

I prefer ShortCat's model: https://shortcat.app/ Similar to Vimium, but for the whole OS. Apparently Homerow is similar, judging from comments I'm seeing here. I really wish I knew an equivalent for Linux. I might even leave Gnome behind if a different DE has a good model for this.

Have you looked into Sway/i3?

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

#142

Opensource alternatives: - https://github.com/moverest/wl-kbptr - https://github.com/petoncle/mousemaster - https://github.com/y3owk1n/neru - https://github.com/mjrusso/scoot - https://github.com/jbensmann/mouseless - https://github.com/rvaiya/warpd (not really maintained anymore)

https://github.com/msolomon/griddle

This one is recursive-grid for Hammerspoon users on macOS, and is probably the easiest of the open source implementations to fully customize. (I made it years ago)

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

#143
post #72

I prefer ShortCat's model: https://shortcat.app/ Similar to Vimium, but for the whole OS. Apparently Homerow is similar, judging from comments I'm seeing here. I really wish I knew an equivalent for Linux. I might even leave Gnome behind if a different DE has a good model for this.

Have you looked into Sway/i3?

Did you look at the links, these solve a different problem.

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

#145
IMHO, the best I’d seen of mouseless UI was the pentadactyl/vimium/vimperator model (possibly originating with (lynx or elinks somehow) where a hot key was pressed and everything clickable was overlayed with a number allowing a direct click. Obviously simpler than what is being proposed here, but it was my preferred way of using the browser for some time.

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

#146
post #72

I prefer ShortCat's model: https://shortcat.app/ Similar to Vimium, but for the whole OS. Apparently Homerow is similar, judging from comments I'm seeing here. I really wish I knew an equivalent for Linux. I might even leave Gnome behind if a different DE has a good model for this.

I like shortcat, but it's slow, even on a modern Mac. Also, I'm not sure the dynamic nature of the hotkeys is a good thing. I could imagine if you use Mouseless for a long period of time, muscle memory might prevail as screen locations map to the same set of keys.

Some apps have crappy accessibility so Homerow doesn't always work in some apps. so I kind of want to try mouseless as well. I might end up rocking both at the same time.

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

#147

IMHO, the best I’d seen of mouseless UI was the pentadactyl/vimium/vimperator model (possibly originating with (lynx or elinks somehow) where a hot key was pressed and everything clickable was overlayed with a number allowing a direct click. Obviously simpler than what is being proposed here, but it was my preferred way of using the browser for some time.

Tridactyl is alive and kicking for Firefox today?

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

#148
post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The trackpoint is the main reason I find it so hard to move away from Lenovo Thinkpads. The buttons under the spacebar alone are super convenient.

Not just hard - impossible. To the point of making it harder to find a job, as very few jobs let you use a non-Windows ThinkPad. (I mean yeah, of course AuDHD makes it harder to find a job, no surprise there. But it's a shame that laptop manufacturers make it even harder.)

Dell and HP had trackpoints once (I had a HP one), maybe they still do.

Re: Mouseless – keyboard-driven control of macOS/Linux/Windows

#150

If you wanted to go in the other direction, you could achieve more productivity with faster mouse skills. The competitive FPS genre has spawned a bunch of aim training tools[0] to improve muscle memory. [0] https://www.3daimtrainer.com/

If you wanted to go in the other direction, you could achieve more productivity with faster mouse skills. I was always in the camp that believed that the keyboard was always faster than mouse for complex workflows. Then a couple of weeks ago I spent most of a day in a hospital emergency room with someone, and couldn't believe the way those E.R. nurses fly through the menus and options in Epic using just a mouse. I'm…

I think muscle memory is a huge part of it. I've seen both the slow hunt and peck sort of folks working on keyboard only apps in auto parts stores and I've seen the guys who can fly through all the screens like a wizard.
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