How much are they paying the users?
They are probably adding more trinkets to their shop, so you can buy them.
Training our own AI models
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#142Time to scan for the current opensource copmmunity projects to migrate. Any recommendations are most welcome.
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#143Today I was thinking, if I start a company in the LLM tooling space, I would put in the company mission in the incorporation documents that client data will not be used to train. The temptation and the value is too great, and the opt-in opt-out consent thing ends up being a fuckery where the company tries to trick the user into allowing them to take a look into the data, presumably because they are selling the produc…
Not to be cynical but do you think this would matter at all? Are you saying that companies would hold themselves to their missions or even something that's legally binding?
> "Google is not a conventional company. We do not intend to become one."
> OpenAI being founded as a nonprofit and becoming for profit.
> Didn't Anthropic literally say they wouldn't train on your data or keep it for longer than 30 days unless legally required, and then decided to opt people in to having their conversations used for training?
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I do not think we understand consciousness enough to rule out what those brains are experiencing.
The parent edited their comment, wasn’t there when I replied. But if you believe your organs don’t die when you die, then don’t donate your organs?
Um... I, 220% disagree with that statement. I did edit to fix a spelling mistake, I did not add/remove content...
I wish HN showed the edit history >:(
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I do not think we understand consciousness enough to rule out what those brains are experiencing.
The parent edited their comment, wasn’t there when I replied. But if you believe your organs don’t die when you die, then don’t donate your organs?
> if you believe your organs don’t die when you die, then don’t donate your organs?
Because "I" don't know what "I" am.
Am I a brain? Am I a soul? Am I the universe?
I have no idea. Science currently has no idea. Religion is unprovable.
I want to donate my organs. If my death can bring life to others, it would be a truly amazing deed I could do.
On the other hand, if I am just a brain, I do not want to be locked into some sort of drugged, half-conscious state where I can't scream.
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#146We were considering Posthog and now they’re on our shitlist.
Good job guys.
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#147“Opt-in by default” is an oxymoron. If it’s default then I haven’t opted into anything. It’s been enabled by default.
CEOs and the like speak Weasel and only use Weasel Words.
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#148Today I was thinking, if I start a company in the LLM tooling space, I would put in the company mission in the incorporation documents that client data will not be used to train. The temptation and the value is too great, and the opt-in opt-out consent thing ends up being a fuckery where the company tries to trick the user into allowing them to take a look into the data, presumably because they are selling the produc…
Not to be cynical but do you think this would matter at all? Are you saying that companies would hold themselves to their missions or even something that's legally binding? > "Google is not a conventional company. We do not intend to become one." > OpenAI being founded as a nonprofit and becoming for profit. > Didn't Anthropic literally say they wouldn't train on your data or keep it for longer than 30 days unless le…
if it's in the charter/articles of incorporation/ articles of organization, it's binding. If I break the mission and a.
> OpenAI being founded as a nonprofit and becoming for profit.
I think this is a common misconception, or a disregard for nuances. The NFP was not and cannot be converted to a Corp, that's kind of the idea of an NFP. However there exist satellite companies.
Sam Altman does not own shares of Open AI because there are no shares.
OpenAI has a for profit company (capped, Public benefit corporation), which Sama I don't think has shares in. It's an instrument for investments.
But every transaction needs to be fair and in kind, there can be no gifts at any point in a way that would magically negate the purpose of an NFP, Sama cannot cede the IP of ChatGPT to himself or one of his companies, that's not what's going on.
> Didn't Anthropic literally say they wouldn't train on your data or keep it for longer than 30 days unless legally required, and then decided to opt people in to having their conversations used for training?
Again, saying it, putting in terms of contracts (that can be retracted with notice), and putting it in the charter are all different.
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it might be better to get rid of the organ *donation* system entirely. Organ transplant surgery costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, yet donors get zilch, which is completely unfair when everyone else in the value chain gets paid. If instead it was "allow my organs to be sold for my estate" I think the supply of organs would greatly increase, which would be win/win.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is a doubly naive pair of statements.
How many Yankees can get treatment for say cancer without going bankrupt?