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DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by ReptileMan »

Guillaume86 wrote: post #136
ReptileMan wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both pi, opencode and zed work amazing with deepseek.

You seem to have tried a few things, if you don't mind I have a few questions as someone currently on Claude Code but would prefer to not lock myself in a commercial ecosystem (and their pricing change regarding headless usage is annoying me): - how do/would you add the WebSearch tool to your harness? pay for a separate service or does deepseek offer something with their subscriptions? - do pi/opencode support pastin…

I use them for pure coding, but I think they do curls when needing something from the host machine.

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by ux266478 »

abyssin wrote: post #47
wg0 wrote: post #13

If you have not tried DeepdeekV4 you're missing out. The pricing makes it unbelievably good. The chains of thought for Deepseek are very very interesting reads. Open code won't show them but do read them and you'll be surprised at how underrated the model is. My model usage is very low but I still do pay directly to Deepseek regularly as my tribute and contribution to them open sourcing their models as my gratitude a…

It’s good and cheap, but don’t talk about politics to it or it might trigger some sort of censorship rule. You can see it think, then suddenly erase everything and suggest to switch to another subject, without explaining anything. I also had it output some sort of generic message about how the news outlets are in the service of the people. Both times I was surprised because I didn’t make any sensitive requests, neith…

The base model doesn't have these problems FWIW

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by maxdo »

minimaxir wrote: post #110

I'm more curious about the caching: > (2) For all models, the input cache hit price has been reduced to 1/10 of the launch price. This price adjustment takes effect from 2026/4/26 12:15 UTC. There is no end date. Currently, it's 2% of the input price for DeepSeek V4 Flash and 0.8% with this new V4 Pro pricing, which is extremely low compared to competitors to the point that it affects the unit economics a bit and I t…

Sonnet : Cache Read $0.30

Gemini 3.5 flash : Cache Read $0.15

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by ReptileMan »

guelo wrote: post #113
guelo wrote: post #23

Even at these prices I find claude and codex subscriptions to be cheaper than per-token pricing when my usage is hovering around the session limits. I guess the subscriptions are heavily subsidized.

I guess I got downvoted because people don't believe me that it's cheaper? But I spent $5 a couple days ago in one hour with deepseek v4 in a coding agent. That's way more expensive than a $20/month claude subscription. Even if I hit claude's 5h limit in one hour I can do that many times in a month.

Can you give some details about your use case. I have been using DS4 very heavily and I can hardly spend more than 1USD per day

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by maxdo »

maxdo wrote: post #143
minimaxir wrote: post #110

I'm more curious about the caching: > (2) For all models, the input cache hit price has been reduced to 1/10 of the launch price. This price adjustment takes effect from 2026/4/26 12:15 UTC. There is no end date. Currently, it's 2% of the input price for DeepSeek V4 Flash and 0.8% with this new V4 Pro pricing, which is extremely low compared to competitors to the point that it affects the unit economics a bit and I t…

Sonnet : Cache Read $0.30 Gemini 3.5 flash : Cache Read $0.15

GPT 5.4 Cache Read ≤272K $0.25

And it's multi modal, and available at whatever you might imagine rates limits.

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by maxdo »

minimaxir wrote: post #110

I'm more curious about the caching: > (2) For all models, the input cache hit price has been reduced to 1/10 of the launch price. This price adjustment takes effect from 2026/4/26 12:15 UTC. There is no end date. Currently, it's 2% of the input price for DeepSeek V4 Flash and 0.8% with this new V4 Pro pricing, which is extremely low compared to competitors to the point that it affects the unit economics a bit and I t…

Flash on it's own is not a very competitive model, it's pricing is within ranges of everything else on the market.

Probably the most direct competitor of Flash model :

GPT 5.4 mini

Cache Read $0.075 /M tokens

Gemini 3 flash :

Cache Read $0.05 /M tokens

e.g nothing very magical or ground breaking.

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by dyauspitr »

gertlabs wrote: post #66

Even with the V4 Pro discount, the V4 Flash model gives you the best performance per unit dollar, and better performance overall for agentic, tool-heavy workloads. V4 Pro is smarter in one-shot reasoning, but at a significant speed difference. The performance, cost, and speed, makes V4 Flash our top flash model today by far. Data at https://gertlabs.com/rankings

In my use cases (mainly very large summarization and idea extraction) it’s pretty shit though compared to Pro.

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by minimaxir »

maxdo wrote: post #143
minimaxir wrote: post #110

I'm more curious about the caching: > (2) For all models, the input cache hit price has been reduced to 1/10 of the launch price. This price adjustment takes effect from 2026/4/26 12:15 UTC. There is no end date. Currently, it's 2% of the input price for DeepSeek V4 Flash and 0.8% with this new V4 Pro pricing, which is extremely low compared to competitors to the point that it affects the unit economics a bit and I t…

Sonnet : Cache Read $0.30 Gemini 3.5 flash : Cache Read $0.15

For Sonnet, that's 10% of input cost (and requires paying for the cache)

For Gemini 3.5 Flash, it's also 10% of input cost.

Which is why 2%/0.8% change the economics in a meaningful way, given the input/cache-heavy way agents operate.

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by beacon294 »

guelo wrote: post #113
guelo wrote: post #23

Even at these prices I find claude and codex subscriptions to be cheaper than per-token pricing when my usage is hovering around the session limits. I guess the subscriptions are heavily subsidized.

I guess I got downvoted because people don't believe me that it's cheaper? But I spent $5 a couple days ago in one hour with deepseek v4 in a coding agent. That's way more expensive than a $20/month claude subscription. Even if I hit claude's 5h limit in one hour I can do that many times in a month.

I have a similar experience, however if you spent $5 at these rates you may have an issue with caching in your client.

Re: DeepSeek makes the V4 Pro price discount permanent

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Post by Guillaume86 »

ReptileMan wrote: post #141
Guillaume86 wrote: post #136

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You seem to have tried a few things, if you don't mind I have a few questions as someone currently on Claude Code but would prefer to not lock myself in a commercial ecosystem (and their pricing change regarding headless usage is annoying me): - how do/would you add the WebSearch tool to your harness? pay for a separate service or does deepseek offer something with their subscriptions? - do pi/opencode support pastin…

I use them for pure coding, but I think they do curls when needing something from the host machine.

Yes I'm also using it for coding: I often make the agent use WebSearch in the research phase when deciding on a stack or a library or research best/modern practices to do achieve something. As for images I find it super useful to be able to paste snipped screenshots to show the agent when something is wrong in a UI/frontend or just something I can't copy paste easily.
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