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Re: Get your passwords out of Bitwarden while you still can

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Post by Esophagus4 »

halJordan wrote: post #118
craigmart wrote: post #48

This is an incredible overraction over a minor change that did not even happen. You can still find "Always free" in the pricing line of the very same page everyone keeps linking as proof https://bitwarden.com/products/personal/#whats-the-differenc... Edit: it actually disappeared for some time but they put it back on May 18 snapshot from May 15: https://web.archive.org/web/20260515190646/https://bitwarden... snapshot…

I dont think its an over reaction. It's pretty common to lock in users by removing or imposing cost on exports. Having an export from today is a lot better than having nothing in 5 years when bitwarden disables exports

> in 5 years when bitwarden disables exports

i think this is the overreaction - getting worked up about these sort of risks in general isn’t worth your time.

Otherwise you’d end up self-hosting everything strictly on OSS from maintainers you personally know and trust.

This is like someone saying, “don’t use AWS because they might raise prices some day”

Re: Get your passwords out of Bitwarden while you still can

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Post by jjulius »

craigmart wrote: post #137
jjulius wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Enshittification must happen sooner or later afterall... No it absolutely must not.

You're right, pardon my cynical remark. I'm just disillusioned by the promises of most tech companies

Pardon my tone, as well - the enshittification is exhausting.

Re: Get your passwords out of Bitwarden while you still can

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Post by Meph504 »

halJordan wrote: post #118
craigmart wrote: post #48

This is an incredible overraction over a minor change that did not even happen. You can still find "Always free" in the pricing line of the very same page everyone keeps linking as proof https://bitwarden.com/products/personal/#whats-the-differenc... Edit: it actually disappeared for some time but they put it back on May 18 snapshot from May 15: https://web.archive.org/web/20260515190646/https://bitwarden... snapshot…

I dont think its an over reaction. It's pretty common to lock in users by removing or imposing cost on exports. Having an export from today is a lot better than having nothing in 5 years when bitwarden disables exports

Can you name a single password vault that has removed the ability to export, I would say it is a bit of wild speculation to assume this would happen. Even more so as there seems to only be anecdotal and speculative evidence this would happen.

Between the law suits, and the brand damage, there is likely very little upside for a company entertaining this idea.

Re: Get your passwords out of Bitwarden while you still can

#144

Post by Meph504 »

esseph wrote: post #113
craigmart wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had checked as soon as I found out about the news the other day and it was there. I just checked on wayback machine and you're right, it was removed for some time. However, if they're willing to put back that claim immediately, I doubt that their intention was to drop the free plan anytime soon, but probably it was to incentivize people to use the paid plans. Enshittification must happen sooner or later afterall, b…

> Enshittification must happen sooner or later afterall There are a fair amount of multi-hundred year old companies out there.

most of them seem to be falling into the "or later part"

Re: Get your passwords out of Bitwarden while you still can

#145

Post by PaulHoule »

Esophagus4 wrote: post #141
halJordan wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dont think its an over reaction. It's pretty common to lock in users by removing or imposing cost on exports. Having an export from today is a lot better than having nothing in 5 years when bitwarden disables exports

> in 5 years when bitwarden disables exports i think this is the overreaction - getting worked up about these sort of risks in general isn’t worth your time. Otherwise you’d end up self-hosting everything strictly on OSS from maintainers you personally know and trust. This is like someone saying, “don’t use AWS because they might raise prices some day”

I've had the argument so many times with eng managers about how this password manager or that password manager will get hacked or get enshittified and I've been right 100% of the time.

Re: Get your passwords out of Bitwarden while you still can

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Post by yinksta »

omnimus wrote: post #119
arikrahman wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can get rid of the element of hope by using KeepassXC and syncthing. Bonus is you can use this FOSS stack completely offline.

And not be able to use it on your phone or share it with people you work with. Vaultwarden is the way. Easy to host docker. Solid. And if bitwarden blocks the clients there will be a fork. It's leading to it anyway.

You can use it on your phone what are you talking about?

Re: Get your passwords out of Bitwarden while you still can

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Post by lazide »

Esophagus4 wrote: post #141
halJordan wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dont think its an over reaction. It's pretty common to lock in users by removing or imposing cost on exports. Having an export from today is a lot better than having nothing in 5 years when bitwarden disables exports

> in 5 years when bitwarden disables exports i think this is the overreaction - getting worked up about these sort of risks in general isn’t worth your time. Otherwise you’d end up self-hosting everything strictly on OSS from maintainers you personally know and trust. This is like someone saying, “don’t use AWS because they might raise prices some day”

With the escalating abusive practices on display, going towards ‘self hosting everything strictly on OSS’ at least is exactly where this is all going.

Re: Get your passwords out of Bitwarden while you still can

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Post by lazide »

esseph wrote: post #113
craigmart wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had checked as soon as I found out about the news the other day and it was there. I just checked on wayback machine and you're right, it was removed for some time. However, if they're willing to put back that claim immediately, I doubt that their intention was to drop the free plan anytime soon, but probably it was to incentivize people to use the paid plans. Enshittification must happen sooner or later afterall, b…

> Enshittification must happen sooner or later afterall There are a fair amount of multi-hundred year old companies out there.

Any out there still doing what they originally were?

Re: Get your passwords out of Bitwarden while you still can

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Post by yinksta »

webstrand wrote: post #89
parliament32 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My KeePassXC database auto-syncs to my Nextcloud instance. Nextcloud client on PCs, Keepass2Android on my phone, and it's the same end result as Bitwarden but without the shenanigans.

Do you have a solution for auto-merging conflicting changes? Because I think that's the real difference, editing on a laptop and on a desktop before the sync can occur, can cause data-loss (for my potentially naive use of keepassxc anyway).

How do you get data loss?keepassXC,DX saves a conflict copy and warns you. Anytime I've seen the warning over ~10 years it's been a non issue. Like I add an entry on PC, walk away from the 'save db' prompt for a day and then update something on my phone so I have 1 new account on both. I see the warning and so I have to hit one button to do the basic merge or whatever and it's done.

What are you guys doing to get real issues?

Re: Get your passwords out of Bitwarden while you still can

#150

Post by CharlesW »

WolfeReader wrote: post #49
TN1ck wrote: post #45

I switched to Apple Passwords this week. Really good passkey support, 2FA support, best iOS integration. You can even share passwords with others. Sadly no first party cli support. If you only use Apple devices, it’s really solid.

"If you only use Apple devices, it’s really solid." It's not a good idea to become dependent on a single corporation's products.

You can eject whenever you like: https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/export-passwords-iphf...

Passkeys too: https://sixcolors.com/post/2025/09/export-keys-securely-from...

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