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Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by esperent »

estebarb wrote: post #138

I have refused to lean too hard on agentic tooling for developing. I'm aware of the gains, I use it at my daily job. But I cannot afford to loss my brain skills, just in case they do a rug pull. These week announcements are effectively Google doing a rug pull to its customers. Now simple changes cannot be done anymore within antigravity without it to consume its full quota. Personally I downgraded my Google One subsc…

> These week announcements are effectively Google doing a rug pull to its customers

I can see The Onion headline now: "Man surprised when rug-pulling company pulls the rug from under him".

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by pelorat »

satvikpendem wrote: post #4
Sevii wrote: post #2

How did Google blow their AI lead? Why is Google the 2nd or 3rd tier player in the AI coding market? Why can't GCP supplant AWS? Because google can't help but constantly shoot its customers and itself in the foot.

No, it's more that Gemini models are simply not very good for coding compared to the top two. Even with Antigravity I use Claude models.

Depends on the language. Gemini and Claude are far superior when it comes to C# for instance, compared to anything that OAI offers.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by [deleted] »

charcircuit wrote: post #50
drdrek wrote: post #3

I'm very surprised, goggle are usually known for their customer focused approach and long standing support of legacy systems!

As long as the legacy systems have billions of users. Otherwise they get shutdown once people run out of interest. See https://killedbygoogle.com/

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Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

laanako08 wrote: post #122
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The project is very early still, so if you're interested, please reach out or signup for the email-list and i'll contact you. Pricing page is highly aspirational at the moment, money is not the focus at this phase. Why do you think an IDE is the right tool? I'm working in a similar space, and it's not clear why an IDE would benefit. Specifically to you - if you're hoping to make this a business - please know if you…

> Why do you think an IDE is the right tool? I didn't start with an IDE but ended up there after some time. The core of my approach is an entirely new workflow. Underlying all of it is a "planning canvas" which is a network graph visualization of the codebase symbols, structures, and relations, where each node of the graph is a custom data-structure that captures a set of considerations. The workflow is generally as…

> Underlying all of it is a "planning canvas" which is a network graph visualization of the codebase symbols, structures, and relations, where each node of the graph is a custom data-structure that captures a set of considerations.

Cool, I'm thinking along the same lines.

> but thus far they havent done it and i want this to exist, so i persist.

Cool, we are in the same boat [=

> If you're open to it, signup

I'll check it out.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by elzbardico »

drdrek wrote: post #3

I'm very surprised, goggle are usually known for their customer focused approach and long standing support of legacy systems!

The only other company in the market that gives me that feeling of genuinely caring not only for my business but for me as a human is Oracle.

Oracle has taught me that there are more things in life than money.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by andOlga »

Mond_ wrote: post #75
KeplerBoy wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Antigravity is just a vs code (more correctly: codeium) skin with Google telemetry and agent Integration. You can switch back to Microsoft's or cursor's flavor in minutes.

It isn't anymore, though, that's kind of the whole point of the article.

Thing is, I recognize this UI. It looks identical to the VS Code "Agents Window" feature. Except it's... a standalone app, for some reason.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by jeromegv »

riskassessment wrote: post #46

I was surprised people were so willing to jump to closed source IDEs just for access to coding agents. The trade-off you pay for tight integration between the IDE and the coding agent is lock-in because the barrier to switching IDEs is nontrivial. Your coding environment stands a lower chance of disruption when you use an open source IDE with a CLI agent. Yes it's slightly annoying to separate the agent from the IDE…

The funny part is that Gemini-Cli is open-source, and now they are getting rid of it for Antigravity CLI.. which is not open-source. Fun.

Re: Google's Antigravity bait and switch

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Post by sourya4 »

riskassessment wrote: post #46

I was surprised people were so willing to jump to closed source IDEs just for access to coding agents. The trade-off you pay for tight integration between the IDE and the coding agent is lock-in because the barrier to switching IDEs is nontrivial. Your coding environment stands a lower chance of disruption when you use an open source IDE with a CLI agent. Yes it's slightly annoying to separate the agent from the IDE…

amen!!

this is why i've built all of my setup using a dotfiles-like approach with the explicit intention of always being agent/model-agnostic: https://github.com/ma08/botfiles

the key insight is that if you own the context layer and keep your skills, hooks etc. portable enough, it's actually very easy to swtich agents at will (even mid-task)

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