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Anthropic is expanding to Colossus2. Will use GB200

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Re: Anthropic is expanding to Colossus2. Will use GB200

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post #134

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The newer location is about 3 miles southwest of the Memphis Airport (MEM), one of the world’s largest cargo airports and the center of FedEx operations (500 take-off and landings per day most concentrated in a 6 h FedEx window with lots of engines running on ramps and that produces about 2000 tons of NOx per year). I live about 18 miles downwind of the new Colossus sites, the airport, and lots of truck logistics sit…

> I’ll take Anthropic in preference to Grok NOx It's the same datacenter? Ran by the same people?

I think that was the joke.

Re: Anthropic is expanding to Colossus2. Will use GB200

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The gas furnace in my basement don't have a massive jet turbine emiting high frequency noise

I wouldn't call noise pollution a "tremendous externality". The gas turbines should just be placed far enough from where people live.

Should, but in fact are too close.

Re: Anthropic is expanding to Colossus2. Will use GB200

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post #18

I think that's the datacenter with the gas turbine generators that operate without permits because they're "portable." Data centers have tremendous externalities but colossus is a particularly nasty offender, and not just due its size. Edit: They did it with Colossus and now they're doing the exact same thing with Colossus2. https://www.selc.org/news/xai-built-an-illegal-power-plant-t...

The newer location is about 3 miles southwest of the Memphis Airport (MEM), one of the world’s largest cargo airports and the center of FedEx operations (500 take-off and landings per day most concentrated in a 6 h FedEx window with lots of engines running on ramps and that produces about 2000 tons of NOx per year). I live about 18 miles downwind of the new Colossus sites, the airport, and lots of truck logistics sit…

Hey Siri - can you please order this guy a spare set of lungs ?

Re: Anthropic is expanding to Colossus2. Will use GB200

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post #86

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xAI’s turbines produce meaningful local/regional pollution (especially NOx in a vulnerable area) but represent a rounding error nationally and globally.

> xAI’s turbines produce meaningful local/regional pollution (especially NOx in a vulnerable area) but represent a rounding error nationally and globally. If you shoot someone in the face, it will produce a meaningful increase in local/regional murder, but represent a rounding error nationally and globally.

Gave me a chuckle on my commute, thanks!

Re: Anthropic is expanding to Colossus2. Will use GB200

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post #86
post #18

I think that's the datacenter with the gas turbine generators that operate without permits because they're "portable." Data centers have tremendous externalities but colossus is a particularly nasty offender, and not just due its size. Edit: They did it with Colossus and now they're doing the exact same thing with Colossus2. https://www.selc.org/news/xai-built-an-illegal-power-plant-t...

xAI’s turbines produce meaningful local/regional pollution (especially NOx in a vulnerable area) but represent a rounding error nationally and globally.

farting in a crowded elevator because the people outside the elevator won't even notice

Re: Anthropic is expanding to Colossus2. Will use GB200

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post #131
post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Opus and GPT are so different there’s room for both and I wouldn’t be ignoring Gemini even if it isn’t ahem great at coding, since it’s quite obviously very good otherwise. In the times before you also would rather have very smart people working together instead of one very smart dude alone even if he had an identical twin.

My go-to usecase for Gemini is summarizing Youtube tech-influencers.

How do you do it?

Re: Anthropic is expanding to Colossus2. Will use GB200

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post #86
post #18

I think that's the datacenter with the gas turbine generators that operate without permits because they're "portable." Data centers have tremendous externalities but colossus is a particularly nasty offender, and not just due its size. Edit: They did it with Colossus and now they're doing the exact same thing with Colossus2. https://www.selc.org/news/xai-built-an-illegal-power-plant-t...

xAI’s turbines produce meaningful local/regional pollution (especially NOx in a vulnerable area) but represent a rounding error nationally and globally.

It doesn’t matter if people have to suddenly live by gas turbines that run 24/7 because why again? Can you repeat that last part back to me but say it a little dumber for me?

Re: Anthropic is expanding to Colossus2. Will use GB200

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post #86
post #18

I think that's the datacenter with the gas turbine generators that operate without permits because they're "portable." Data centers have tremendous externalities but colossus is a particularly nasty offender, and not just due its size. Edit: They did it with Colossus and now they're doing the exact same thing with Colossus2. https://www.selc.org/news/xai-built-an-illegal-power-plant-t...

xAI’s turbines produce meaningful local/regional pollution (especially NOx in a vulnerable area) but represent a rounding error nationally and globally.

multiply rounding errors by thousands and you get somewhat meaningful impact. you are underestimating the scale of independently small pollutions

Re: Anthropic is expanding to Colossus2. Will use GB200

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Here's a probably stupid question - if someone were unbounded by ethics and conceivably had enough power and connections to power to shield themselves from many consequences of their actions - and that person owned these DCs, could they in theory observe all the streams of tokens coming in and out of these models, and even exfiltrate copies of these models wholesale to have their own teams do what they will with them…

There's accusations that the Chinese labs have done essentially that to OpenAI and Anthropic and exfiltrated their models without having DC access, so if you had DC access, yes, you could do that. If you had DC access though you could just copy the model onto an SSD.

The Chinese labs have been accused of training on elicited chat logs on a massive scale in violation of ToS. That's possibly a real concern, but it's nowhere close to "exfiltrating" the model or even roughly matching its behavior.
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